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 Post subject: Deer hunters, have you ever wondered......
PostPosted: Sat Nov 26, 2005 11:27 pm 
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What actually happens to that peice of copper or lead that I fling at that deer. I know most of you have seen the pretty pictures of the bullet that the companies that make the rounds put up, but is that the truth. Well sometimes. Here is a small asortment of rounds from last years deer season. We process over 300 deer during the shotgun and muzzeloader seasons and that is where the spent bullets come from.

I posted this in my atv forum, thought you guys would also enjoy.

This is a copper solid 6 pedel hollow point.
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These are your standard hollow point lead slugs.
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These are your standard lead saboted slugs.
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Here are a 4 pedel solid copper rounds.
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Standard rifled pointed lead slug.
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Thes are your standard saboted lead/copper muzzeloader rounds.
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 Post subject: Re: Deer hunters, have you ever wondered......
PostPosted: Sun Nov 27, 2005 2:00 am 
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Don't hunt with a slug gun or smoke pole but I always enjoy looking at recovered bullets. A few of those didn't look as advertised but must have worked since they are at the meat locker. Enjoyed your post as you don't see much on recovered slugs. Hope you had a good Thanks Giving.


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 Post subject: Re: Deer hunters, have you ever wondered......
PostPosted: Sun Nov 27, 2005 4:42 am 
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Very interesting! Thanks alot!

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 Post subject: Re: Deer hunters, have you ever wondered......
PostPosted: Sun Nov 27, 2005 9:24 am 
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Thanks for the photos & info. I see that the Winchester Supreme Gold ammo offers little expansion. Maybe the sabot loads have too hard of a bullet. :?:

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 Post subject: Re: Deer hunters, have you ever wondered......
PostPosted: Sun Nov 27, 2005 1:59 pm 
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Thanks for the pics. I've recovered regular rifled slugs from deer but never a Rem. copper solid. Every deer I've shot or dressed that has been shot with one passed thru. Good to see they do expand like advertised.


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 Post subject: Re: Deer hunters, have you ever wondered......
PostPosted: Thu Dec 29, 2005 4:06 am 
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excellent post, def interesting seeing bullets NOT shot through just ballistics jelly


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 Post subject: Re: Deer hunters, have you ever wondered......
PostPosted: Thu Dec 29, 2005 10:03 am 
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This was such a great post, I'm going to make it sticky and put it in the big game section. This was one of the most interesting posts I've seen in a long time.

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 Post subject: Re: Deer hunters, have you ever wondered......
PostPosted: Wed Jan 11, 2006 1:47 am 
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WOW, I havent been on this forum in about a month and when I come back I see that one of my threads is a sticky. Thanks Administator/Moderators. :D


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 Post subject: Re: Deer hunters, have you ever wondered......
PostPosted: Thu Feb 23, 2006 7:51 pm 
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Here's a Lightfield Hybred 12ga. 2 3/4" slug taken from under the hide of a Massachusetts doe this past December...shown with an intact one for comparison. I like the results of the slug and the "down right there" results...
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 Post subject: Re: Deer hunters, have you ever wondered......
PostPosted: Sat Apr 29, 2006 9:07 pm 
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Very cool, I use the copper solids also.


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 Post subject: Re: Deer hunters, have you ever wondered......
PostPosted: Sun Apr 30, 2006 9:48 am 
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Last year I used the Winchester Partiion Gold because they were so accurate out of My Ithaca Deerslayer. If I had seen these pictures first, I never would have purchased them!

Oddly though, I shot two deer with them, one at a measured 107 yards and one at an estimate 80. The deer shot at 107 yards wasa hit broadside through both shoulders, went down immediatly, and never moved. The deer shot at 80 was hit behind the shoulders, through the lungs, and ran less than 100 yards.

Maybe this shows that even with minimal expansion, driving a half-inch hole through a deer is fatal?


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 Post subject: Re: Deer hunters, have you ever wondered......
PostPosted: Sat May 27, 2006 9:31 am 
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CZMark- I too chose the Winchester Gold for its accuracy. I have many friends that also shoot/swear by them. Last season, I dbl lung shot a 9 pt buck at est. 50 yds, he ran no more than 50 ft after the hit. Dropped a 135 lb. doe in her tracks at a measured 86 yds.
Both slugs left 2 1/2" - 3" exit wounds and of course weren't recovered. But, I'll take that kind of bullet performance, along with the butt kick its packin any day of the week. I shoot the Golds out of an H&R USH 12ga for "1 shot-1 kill" piece of mind.


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 Post subject: Re: Deer hunters, have you ever wondered......
PostPosted: Tue May 30, 2006 2:03 am 
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Here is another 12ga Lightfield hybred that hit a doe from maybe 20 yards.
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The slug broke three right ribs, then fragmented. I found the wad about in the middle, and some of the fragments continued breaking four more ribs. The deer was DRT (dead right there).

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The two largest pieces weigh 87 & 74 gr. [/img]


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 Post subject: Re: Deer hunters, have you ever wondered......
PostPosted: Tue May 30, 2006 2:12 am 
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A picture of a 400gr Winchester Platinum Tip that I shot a 114# boar with from about 50-60 yards. The slug penetrated just in front of the right shoulder, through the chest cavity, and almost the other shoulder. After it was quartered out, I found the slug in pretty much one piece. It was in the muscle tissue on the opposite side. Once it was cut out, the slug seperated.
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 Post subject: Re: Deer hunters, have you ever wondered......
PostPosted: Tue May 30, 2006 2:18 am 
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My last picture (for now) is The 12ga Federal 3/4 ounce Barnes expander. Shot a buck from about 125 yards. It broke two right ribs, then three left ribs and lodged between the left ribs and the skin.
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 Post subject: Re: Deer hunters, have you ever wondered......
PostPosted: Sat Jul 15, 2006 3:45 am 
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Those Winchester high velocity shells I assume are the Power Point 2 3/4 ones at 1700 fps. Any stories about their performance/accuracy ? So far they're the cheapest I can get in my area ($3/5) and I've had good results from other winchester ammo, so I want to give 'em a try.


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 Post subject: re: Deer hunters, have you ever wondered......
PostPosted: Thu Aug 31, 2006 9:09 am 
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What a superb post. Thanks so much!! I'm taking the Partition Golds off my list there's plenty of others out there. Great info!! How bout them rifled slugs lookin' like Lifesavers .


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 Post subject: re: Deer hunters, have you ever wondered......
PostPosted: Thu Dec 07, 2006 2:18 pm 
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Where are the buckshot pics? Where are the brenneke pics?


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 Post subject: re: Deer hunters, have you ever wondered......
PostPosted: Sun Jan 07, 2007 3:11 pm 
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Here's the results of a Buffalo maxi when it hits a deer. Intact one in the middle. The ones on each side fished out of two different deer. 425 gr. HP/HB, 85 gr. FFFG, T/C White Mountain Carbine in .54 cal. Image


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 Post subject: re: Deer hunters, have you ever wondered......
PostPosted: Sun Jan 14, 2007 5:17 pm 
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Awsome post, loved the pics of real world preformance
Thanks for posting!




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