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 Post subject: Shotgun mount on AR-15
PostPosted: Sat Dec 20, 2003 12:05 pm 
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are there any mounts that let you put a shotgun under the barrel of a ar-15.

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 Post subject: Re: Shotgun mount on AR-15
PostPosted: Sat Dec 20, 2003 3:12 pm 
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There's the Knight's Masterkey setup:Image

But that's around $1800.00 and you've got the paperwork to deal with. I do remember seeing mounts that would allow you to mount an 870 or 500 under your AR, but that was about 15 years ago.


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 Post subject: Re: Shotgun mount on AR-15
PostPosted: Sun Dec 21, 2003 12:20 am 
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ok thanks


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 Post subject: Re: Shotgun mount on AR-15
PostPosted: Sun Dec 21, 2003 6:29 pm 
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masterkey = can open "any door" :)

This has been around for a while in the airsoft world... I have never seen a real one but they are pretty cool.

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 Post subject: Re: Shotgun mount on AR-15
PostPosted: Sun Dec 21, 2003 8:38 pm 
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On a slightly related note, the company Crossfire (no longer around) made a pump action rifle/shotgun called the MK I. It was a 12 gauge over a .223. The shotgun was tube fed and the rifle took M16 magazines. This is probably not what you're looking for, but if you want to see pictures there are currently two for sale at auctionarms.com.


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 Post subject: Re: Shotgun mount on AR-15
PostPosted: Tue Dec 23, 2003 1:57 pm 
Looks like an 870. Is it? :?


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 Post subject: Re: Shotgun mount on AR-15
PostPosted: Tue Dec 23, 2003 9:54 pm 
yeah, it's an 870 just modified to fit on the M16/M4. I heard somewhere that KAC (Knight's Armament Co.) does it, but I'm not sure.


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 Post subject: Re: Shotgun mount on AR-15
PostPosted: Wed Dec 24, 2003 9:11 am 
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Yes, Knight's Armament does make the Masterkey. The photo in my post is the real deal.


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 Post subject: Re: Shotgun mount on AR-15
PostPosted: Wed Dec 24, 2003 12:45 pm 
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whys it so expensive? arent you just paying for the mount?


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 Post subject: Re: Shotgun mount on AR-15
PostPosted: Wed Dec 24, 2003 2:21 pm 
Are we talking about This?


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 Post subject: Re: Shotgun mount on AR-15
PostPosted: Fri Dec 26, 2003 11:20 am 
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That is one ugly gun.

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 Post subject: Re: Shotgun mount on AR-15
PostPosted: Sat Dec 27, 2003 1:27 pm 
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stlkid wrote:
whys it so expensive? arent you just paying for the mount?
- For $1800, more than likely you are paying for the mount along with the shotgun itself. It does appear that the mounting bracket is wleded to the top of the shotgun.

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 Post subject: Re: Shotgun mount on AR-15
PostPosted: Mon Dec 29, 2003 11:38 pm 
javven wrote:
That is one ugly gun.


I nearly fell out of my chair laughing when I read this. How true, that is one hideous firearm.

And just chewing my cud, but I think anything THAT exotic going for less than $1000 at the least is probably not very well made.


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 Post subject: Re: Shotgun mount on AR-15
PostPosted: Tue Dec 30, 2003 6:03 pm 
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As was stated above there were mounts for sale about 10 or 15 years ago that would mount an 870 or 500 under an AR15. I'm sure someone still has them sitting on the shelf.

If you watch the movie Predator, the Indian Tracker Billy has an M16 with a shotgun mounted underit, just like in the picture above except it's a full sized m16 and 18in barreled shotgun.

As long as you don't have a barrel shorter then 18in on the shotgun then there's no legal problem with this set up that I've ever heard of.


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 Post subject: Re: Shotgun mount on AR-15
PostPosted: Tue Dec 30, 2003 8:38 pm 
John3200 wrote:
As long as you don't have a barrel shorter then 18in on the shotgun then there's no legal problem with this set up that I've ever heard of.


Actually, since the shotgun is a different registered firearm, the overall length of the shotgun inself must be a minimum of, I believe, 26" overall, with a minimum barrel length of 18", unless you're doing an AOW or SBS with the appropriate fees and paperwork. That would not include any part of the M4/AR host weapon.

Food for thought.

Besides, having shot a real KAC Masterkey, it's a heavy bugger to lug...... kinda like a 203....... It's definitely a specialized system.


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 Post subject: Re: Shotgun mount on AR-15
PostPosted: Tue Dec 30, 2003 8:40 pm 
John3200 wrote:
As long as you don't have a barrel shorter then 18in on the shotgun then there's no legal problem with this set up that I've ever heard of.


Actually, since the shotgun is a different registered firearm, the overall length of the shotgun inself must be a minimum of, I believe, 26" overall, with a minimum barrel length of 18", unless you're doing an AOW or SBS with the appropriate fees and paperwork. That would not include any part of the M4/AR host weapon.

Food for thought.

Besides, having shot a real KAC Masterkey, it's a heavy bugger to lug...... kinda like a 203 (except heavier)....... It's definitely a specialized system.


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 Post subject: Re: Shotgun mount on AR-15
PostPosted: Thu Jan 01, 2004 10:27 pm 
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From my limited understanding, the 1800 bucks comes with the mount and the shotgun, because the shotgun only has a 10 inch barrel and only holds three rounds. dont ank me how it is legal, but i would guess that the short shotgun is classified maybe in the same category as the serbu super shorty. i held my 870 under my ar-15 and unless the 870 was chopped quite a bit, there is no way it would really fit under there, and if it did, it would surely fit javvens definition of an ugly gun :)


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