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 Post subject: best semi auto .410
PostPosted: Sat Aug 18, 2007 8:40 am 
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hey,i was wondering,wat is the best semi auto 410 out there?

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 Post subject: re: best semi auto .410
PostPosted: Sat Aug 18, 2007 9:36 am 
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I would take a look at the remington 1100 very popular and very reliable gun.

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 Post subject: re: best semi auto .410
PostPosted: Sat Aug 18, 2007 9:53 am 
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yea,it is,i got one,in 410.

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 Post subject: re: best semi auto .410
PostPosted: Sat Aug 18, 2007 11:32 am 
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Probably because it is one of the only .410 semis out there...

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 Post subject: Re: re: best semi auto .410
PostPosted: Sat Aug 18, 2007 11:46 am 
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I would take a look at the remington 1100 very popular and very reliable gun.
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Probably because it is one of the only .410 semis out there...

The only other one I can think of is the Saiga. The Remington and the Saiga are worlds apart. Hard to make a comparison.


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 Post subject: re: best semi auto .410
PostPosted: Sat Aug 18, 2007 4:23 pm 
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The 1100 410 is the only one I'm aware of.

You can't beat it for durability or longevity of design.

With the unique problems and issues of the 410, I would not even look at (as in lay eyes on) anything other than a Remmy or a Beretta. And since Beretta doesn't make one....

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 18, 2007 4:30 pm 
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Love my enhanced receiver 1100. Had a 1148 in the past and it was good too...if you could get used to the double shuffle of the long recoiling barrel. :roll:

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 Post subject: re: best semi auto .410
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Yeah, the long recoil action is kind of like shooting a threshing machine, but the 1148 in .410 is a veritable workhorse. Still, I love the 1100 in .410. Problem is, the only one at my house isn't mine, it's my GF's and it's cut down to munchkin size for her. Thinking about trading off my 28ga Wingmaster so I can get an .410 1100 of my very own.


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 Post subject: re: best semi auto .410
PostPosted: Sun Aug 19, 2007 11:15 pm 
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That would be an excellent trade, IMHO!

It'd be hard to think of a better pure "fun" gun than the 1100 Sporting 410.

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 Post subject: re: best semi auto .410
PostPosted: Mon Aug 20, 2007 11:08 am 
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thing is,my 410 doesnt say wat grade it is,just has some engraving on the side.how do i find out?

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 Post subject: Re: re: best semi auto .410
PostPosted: Mon Aug 20, 2007 12:28 pm 
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That would be an excellent trade, IMHO!

It'd be hard to think of a better pure "fun" gun than the 1100 Sporting 410.


Well, yeah, for a sporting. But for an 1100 standard skeet, there would be little cash exchanged.

For my taste, the 1100 Sporting is a tad long for skeet. Doesn't keep me from thoroughly enjoying my 28 Sporting though.


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 Post subject: re: best semi auto .410
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You know there's a reason nobody makes a 410 semi-auto anymore...:lol:

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 Post subject: re: best semi auto .410
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jds;

And that reason would be??????

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Ditto on the why? :roll:

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 Post subject: re: best semi auto .410
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Although I would never personally spend the coin to own a semi-auto 410, I want to stress that I'm not flaming the 410 bore. I've owned and hunted/shot a few 410’s over the years. Very simple answer here fellow members... Lack of demand because of price to produce a 410 semi, overall performance as well the cost of ammunition. Great little bore/guns, but not the most ideal for most hunting situations. What ever you are shooting at with a 410... You can always find a better gauge that is more suited for your target at usually a less expensive cost. Now if you reload maybe the ammunition cost isn't a factor. But for most people there are better alternatives. Other then that, by all means enjoy those 410's and good shooting. The old 11-48 and 1100 410 semis are a peach of a shotgun. Just not most peoples cup of tea and that’s why all 410 semi-autos are presently discontinued. In short it's very plain and simple… Lack of overall sales and consumer demand for the 410 semi-auto.

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 Post subject: Re: re: best semi auto .410
PostPosted: Wed Aug 22, 2007 7:12 pm 
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jds wrote:
that’s why all 410 semi-autos are presently discontinued.


This one is still on the web site as of Aug. 22, I assume either it is still made, or hasn't been pulled off the site if it has been discontinued.

http://www.remington.com/products/firea ... ng_410.asp

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overall performance as well the cost of ammunition. Great little bore/guns, but not the most ideal for most hunting situations. What ever you are shooting at with a 410... You can always find a better gauge that is more suited for your target at usually a less expensive cost.


Yes, for field use, the 28g 1100 is the same weight as the .410 and the 28g is more effective.

http://www.remington.com/products/firea ... _specs.asp

Even the various 20g 1100's are about 1/4 pound heavier.


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 Post subject: Re: re: best semi auto .410
PostPosted: Wed Aug 22, 2007 7:57 pm 
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Claydust wrote:

This one is still on the web site as of Aug. 22, I assume either it is still made, or hasn't been pulled off the site if it has been discontinued.

http://www.remington.com/products/firea ... ng_410.asp
Claydust, when I'm proven wrong I'm the first to fall on the sword... I stand corrected because the 1100 sporting is still produced in a 410 according Remington Arms website, which is as about official as it gets...:lol: But still, we are only talking one 410 semi-auto currently in production.

As for comparing the 1100 sporting 410 with another Remington 20ga semi-auto of any type regarding weight wise... Leave the world of Remington behind for a moment and try comparing to a Franchi, Benelli or Charles Daly 20ga semi-autos. A fact is there are several 28ga & 20ga shotguns of different types and makes that are actually lighter then the 1100 410 and are better suited for hunting as well target shooting in my opinion. The fact still remains that there is not much demand for a 410 semi-auto because the bore is just not practical when compared to other gauges performance wise. And I'll stress again, those of you whom enjoy owning and shooting the 410. Have fun and good shooting always. I don't dislike the 410; it's just not enough a practical shooter for my money. I think you will find most people would agree and that's why there is only (1) 410 semi-auto model built today.

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 Post subject: re: best semi auto .410
PostPosted: Wed Aug 22, 2007 8:48 pm 
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As mentioned above, Remington is not the only semi-auto .410 currently in production:

http://www.raacfirearms.com/Saiga_410.htm

It's a whole different ball game, but it's a semi-auto .410.


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 Post subject: re: best semi auto .410
PostPosted: Wed Aug 22, 2007 9:32 pm 
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The Saiga 410 semi-auto is definitely a horse of a different color...:lol: Unless this individual that started this thread was enquiring about 410 semi-auto assault shotguns in the first place and I missed something.

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 Post subject: Re: re: best semi auto .410
PostPosted: Wed Aug 22, 2007 10:22 pm 
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jds wrote:
The Saiga 410 semi-auto is definitely a horse of a different color...:lol: Unless this individual that started this thread was enquiring about 410 semi-auto assault shotguns in the first place and I missed something.

Well, the original post just said "best .410 semi-auto," and everybody's saying there's only one. My point is that it's a field of two, but they're so different it's hard to say which is "best."

The importer's website says this about the Saiga: "The Saiga-410 autoloading shotguns are designed for professional and sport hunting small and medium-sized game." A clays gun they ain't, although it might be fun to see the raised eyebrows if you brought one out for skeet.

PS: For anybody interested in .410s, here's a good site:

http://www.4-10.co.uk/

It doesn't update all that often, but it's interesting to browse.


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