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 Post subject: Verona LX692 20/28 two barrel set
PostPosted: Tue Oct 23, 2007 7:45 pm 
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Hello:

For sale at our local gun club is a near new Verona LX692 (FAIR) 20/28 28" two barrel set. Asking price is $1500.00.

1. What price is correct for this model?

2. Does this model make a good skeet gun?

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 Post subject: re: Verona LX692 20/28 two barrel set
PostPosted: Thu Oct 25, 2007 9:59 am 
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Thats a little high for a used one. Towards the end of the huge CDNN seel out, they were actually going for this price and lower if I remember correctly.

I would offer $1300 ish and go from there. It will make a great gun for clay and feathered birds. If it has some chokes etc.. that could help the price out some. The chokes are running anywhere between $35-55 each.

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 Post subject: re: Verona LX692 20/28 two barrel set
PostPosted: Thu Oct 25, 2007 11:46 am 
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I think $1500 is still a great deal for this if it is in good shape. The same set is listed on gunbroker and the current bid is $1800

Just because CDNN was selling them for $1600 doesn't mean they are not worth more.

Show me a similar quality set for under 2k. You can't.

Anyway, I wish some of my fellow Veronians would stop trying to undercut the value of Veronas just because CDNN cleared them out. Your not doing any of the current owners any favors. Let the market determine the value. The best place to figure out where the market stands is actual sales at auction sites, etc.

That said, you should definitely try to talk them down. For $1300 I'd buy every 692 set I could get my hands on...


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 Post subject: re: Verona LX692 20/28 two barrel set
PostPosted: Thu Oct 25, 2007 8:38 pm 
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Thanks for responding Hose & MJ:

MJ: I looked on Gunbroker and that auction is for a higher grade set, (I think) from the auction:

"This is model LX692G-20/28."

That is the LX6920g (gold?) whereas the one I am looking at is the standard LX692.

Does this change your opinion MJ?

The seller says 6 chokes per guage are included.

The other issue is he had a "kickezee" pad installed WITHOUT shortening the wood the equalvalent amount. thus lengthening the pull.

Is this one that has "lazer" engraving on the receiver? Hard to tell from the photos.

I'm going to try to see the gun over the weekend.

Thanks again,


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 Post subject: re: Verona LX692 20/28 two barrel set
PostPosted: Thu Oct 25, 2007 10:14 pm 
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mjgunner,

It is extremely hard to try and value what the Veronas are "worth" today. With them no longer being made, there is no current est. to use. If they were paintings, we could raise the value, which would make me happy because my gun safe just got a lot heavier. However, with guns that just isnt the case.

When folks ask what to pay for guns, I can only tell them what they were new, clearance or not.

Now, on the other hand, all of us know that they were "worth" more than any of us paid for them, but that doesnt change how much one should pay today.

I am in NO way trying to down play the value of your, my, or others guns. Just trying to help others get the enjoyment of the imfamous Verona at a fair market price.

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 Post subject: re: Verona LX692 20/28 two barrel set
PostPosted: Fri Oct 26, 2007 5:16 pm 
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Hoselayer

Sorry, if I came across a bit caustic. :oops: Been a rough week at work :?

I hear you. I know you of all people wouldn't play down the value. I am torn - I want my fellow Veronians to get good deals - Like I have so many times but at the same time I don't want to sell our girls short.

Again, sorry

MJ


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 Post subject: Re: re: Verona LX692 20/28 two barrel set
PostPosted: Fri Oct 26, 2007 5:23 pm 
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Sinjin1952 wrote:
MJ: I looked on Gunbroker and that auction is for a higher grade set, (I think) from the auction:
"This is model LX692G-20/28."
That is the LX6920g (gold?) whereas the one I am looking at is the standard LX692.
Does this change your opinion MJ?
The seller says 6 chokes per guage are included.

The other issue is he had a "kickezee" pad installed WITHOUT shortening the wood the equalvalent amount. thus lengthening the pull.

Is this one that has "lazer" engraving on the receiver? Hard to tell from the photos.

Thanks again,


Yes, the g stands for gold. Hoselayer is really the expert on the 692 but I think all the 2 barrel 692 sets were "golds"
Also, all the Verona's with engraving are laser engraved.
6 chokes per gauge is awesome! If they are extended they are worth $35-$50 - so 12 chokes would be very nice. The flush chokes can be had for around $10-$15.

For me the kickeeze pad would be a plus - I got monkey arms and increasing LOP is a good thing. :lol:

Anyway, $1500 is a good deal - but I would try to talk them down. Ask them for a 10% discount - $1350 would be sweet or do as hose mentions and offer $1300 and they may split the difference and land at $1400,

BTW - what gun club? No NO - don;t tell me - I just might rush over and buy it out from under you :wink:


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 Post subject: re: Verona LX692 20/28 two barrel set
PostPosted: Fri Oct 26, 2007 10:57 pm 
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Thanks for all the info, here's where we're at now:

This gun is being advertised by a shooter at a local Gun Club. he put a notice on the Club bulletin board with a price of $1500.00.

I called the Seller last night and after pressing him about details, he says the set is a LX692G. So now it is NOT a standard LXZ692.

Working from recall. he said the 28 ga. barrel has standard choke tubes that came with the gun and a set of Carlson extended skeet tubes.

The 20 ga. barrel has the standard chokes and a set of Briley Spectrum extended skeet chokes.

I am not familier with Carlsons or Brileys but I understand extended choke tubes are good.

The one question I forgot to ask is whether the 20 ga. barrel has 3" chambers. No real concern, just curious as it is a field gun.

I aked the seller if there was any flexibility on the price and was told no, it was firm.

Anyway, tomorrow, I am going to try to meet the seller and look at the set.

From what I've learned, if the set appears new as advertised, (as new) it is probably well worth the $1500.00.

I've never seen a Verona, but from what I have read on the various forums, it should be a nice set.

I will post what I find out.

Thanks again,


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 Post subject: re: Verona LX692 20/28 two barrel set
PostPosted: Thu Nov 01, 2007 9:18 pm 
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Hello All:

I met the seller at the gun club and the Verona LX692G was "as new" as advertised. The seller wouldn't budge on the price so I bought the set for the $1500.00 asking price.

I am happy with the deal as the set came with 2 Trulock extended skeet chokes for the 20 Ga. barrels and 2 Briley extended Spectrum skeet chokes for the 28 ga. barrels. Included also are the stock Verona chokes, five per barrel set. At retail the skeet chokes go for $170.00.

The Gun has had a kick-eze recoil pad installed, but the wood was not shortened, so it added to the length. I believe it's a little long for me but I can fix that.

After agreeing to purchase the set, the Seller treated me to a round of skeet.

I shot a second round of skeet last evening (20 ga.), was a lttle more familier with the feel of the gun and broke 23, missing two easy ones. That's pretty good for me.

A couple of times, the lower barrel ejector didn't work, will have to see if it's a lube problem or maybe it's just tight from being so new.

I'm happy with the gun and look forward to giving the 28 ga. barrel set a try.

With the Kick-eze pad added to the stock the length of pull is now 14 1/2", again, a little long for me.

Could someone tell me what the length of pull is on a stock gun?

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 Post subject: re: Verona LX692 20/28 two barrel set
PostPosted: Thu Nov 01, 2007 9:58 pm 
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A couple of times, the lower barrel ejector didn't work, will have to see if it's a lube problem or maybe it's just tight from being so new.


If she is tight and you dont get her open all the way, you will get that with any gun.


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Could someone tell me what the length of pull is on a stock gun?


It is in here somewhere, give me some time to find it......

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 Post subject: re: Verona LX692 20/28 two barrel set
PostPosted: Sat Nov 03, 2007 8:22 am 
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692 G

LOP-14.37
drop at comp-1.42
drop ar rear comp-1.5
drop at heel-2.28

692 GCS

LOP-14.37
drop at comp-1.42
drop ar rear comp-1.5
drop at heel-2.17

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 Post subject: re: Verona LX692 20/28 two barrel set
PostPosted: Sun Nov 04, 2007 10:33 am 
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Thanks for the specs,

But your measurements seem to indicate a stock sith a raised comb.

Mine is a LX692G that has no raised comb so there is no drop at rear comb to measure.

Are the guns you measured other trap models with a raised comb?

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 Post subject: re: Verona LX692 20/28 two barrel set
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These are the "factory specs". I didnot actually measure any. These measurements, along with the measurements for all the other models were given to us from Verona about 3 years ago.

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 Post subject: Re: Verona LX692 20/28 two barrel set
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Can you still get parts for these guns Verona LX692 ?


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 Post subject: Re: Verona LX692 20/28 two barrel set
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vish107 wrote:
Can you still get parts for these guns Verona LX692 ?


Verona made zero guns. They imported guns made by other makers and most of these makers are still in business and some have been imported by other companies since Verona when out. Parts availability depends upon which gun model owned. All the LX500 series, the LX690 series and the LX702 series guns were made by F.A.I.R. and have been imported by others too. The gunsmith that Verona used for factory warranty repairs is still in business for himself and has parts for these guns. See sticky for Bazil at the top of this forum.

The LX900 series O/U's are Zoli produced guns and I think they might be supported via Zoli's USA support system. Don't know for sure.

Some of the semi-auto's might be a different story. Parts for the Italian made semi may be hard to find. The Turk made semi was also sold as an Escort gun and parts might found, I just haven't had the need to search since I don't own one.

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 Post subject: Re: Verona LX692 20/28 two barrel set
PostPosted: Thu Feb 18, 2016 9:46 am 
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I just looked at a NEW FAIR 692 in 12 gauge being sold on "CHEAPER THAN DIRT" website.
This is the link: https://www.cheaperthandirt.com/categor ... hotguns.do It is priced at $2160.00 and is in stock. The website is showing a large selection on brand new FAIR shotguns to include the LG-692.

Does this mean our Verona's (FAIR) are back with just the name being changed?

I am going to CROSS POST this message in a couple of threads because I want to confirm that the FAIR shotguns are back.

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 Post subject: Re: Verona LX692 20/28 two barrel set
PostPosted: Sun Feb 28, 2016 11:56 am 
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No, Verona is not back, F.A.I.R. has moved on and found a new importer once again. F.A.I.R. made all the LX500, LX600 and LX700 series Verona shotguns. F.A.I.R. also sold SG's to Savage and they were marketed as Savage Milano SG's. and for a period Cabela's was showing F.A.I.R. guns for sale in their gun library online. Don't know if they were leftovers from some importer or direct order by Cabela's.

Like Fabarms, F.A.I.R. has had bad luck with importers of their guns not sticking around for long. Fabarms is now owned by Caesar Guerini and so no longer has that problem. Hopefully, one day F.A.I.R. will have a stable importer!

Cabela's did grab up leftover Akus made shotguns and sell them as Dickinson guns after S&W and Kimber stopped importing these guns. Sold so many that they are continuing to sell them at a bit higher price since they went over so well.



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