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 Post subject: Winchester Model 12 - Installing the plug?
PostPosted: Mon Dec 03, 2007 8:53 pm 
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I have a 12 gauge Model 12 and I need to know how to install the plug. I am not a gunsmith but am reasonable handy. What does it take to do this. Thanks...Matt




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 Post subject: re: Winchester Model 12 - Installing the plug?
PostPosted: Tue Dec 04, 2007 8:15 am 
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The proper screwdriver is all it takes. Remove the magazine cap; hold it in place when removing the screws... the follower spring will try to push the cap out of the tube, but not with a great deal of force. Drop the plug into the magazine tube, and replace the cap.


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 Post subject: re: Winchester Model 12 - Installing the plug?
PostPosted: Tue Dec 04, 2007 8:41 am 
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I know the plug is used to limit magazine capacity (comply with US migratory bird laws) to 2 shells... But is it REALLY needed? Can't I just remove the plug and only put 2 shells in the magazine?


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 Post subject: re: Winchester Model 12 - Installing the plug?
PostPosted: Tue Dec 04, 2007 8:46 am 
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NO NO NO, the law states "capable of holding 2 shells only." If a Wildlife Agent checks and sees you CAN place another round in there...Buh Bye.


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 Post subject: re: Winchester Model 12 - Installing the plug?
PostPosted: Wed Dec 05, 2007 7:19 am 
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And is this for ALL hunting seasons?


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 Post subject: Re: re: Winchester Model 12 - Installing the plug?
PostPosted: Wed Dec 05, 2007 7:31 am 
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SimonTuffGuy wrote:
And is this for ALL hunting seasons?


No. Magazine limiters or "plugs" are only required for migratory bird hunts.

Mike


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 Post subject: re: Winchester Model 12 - Installing the plug?
PostPosted: Wed Dec 05, 2007 7:34 am 
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I'd have to look that up. I just plug my gun and leave it that way. In my state taking of_any_game must be with a max capacity of 3 rounds, 1 chambered, 2- magazine.


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 Post subject: Re: re: Winchester Model 12 - Installing the plug?
PostPosted: Wed Dec 05, 2007 8:37 am 
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magoo wrote:
...... I just plug my gun and leave it that way....


There it is.... if you can't do it with 3 shots, you sure as heck ain't gonna do it with 5 (or 6, or 7, or.....).

In any hunting situation, your first shot is your best, and it's all downhill after that.


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 Post subject: re: Winchester Model 12 - Installing the plug?
PostPosted: Wed Dec 05, 2007 8:46 am 
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No. Magazine limiters or "plugs" are only required for migratory bird hunts.


Obviously varies state to state. Check your local regulations.

>>(a) General rule. - Except as otherwise provided in this title, it is unlawful for any person to hunt or aid, abet, assist or conspire to hunt any game or wildlife through the use of:
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>>(4) A semiautomatic shotgun or magazine shotgun for hunting or taking small game, furbearers, turkey or unprotected birds unless the shotgun is plugged to a two-shell capacity in the magazine. <<


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 Post subject: re: Winchester Model 12 - Installing the plug?
PostPosted: Wed Dec 05, 2007 12:26 pm 
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The instructions given were close, but not all the way there. You still have the crossbolt in the end of the magazine.

Push the crossbolt and pull it out the other side so it's fully exposed. There's a leaf spring that runs the length of the crossbolt. On the end closest to the magazine tube, depress the spring deep inside the crossbolt and pull the cross bolt out. NOW, remove the two screws at the end of the magazine tube, and hold the cap to keep it from flinging parts.

For a plug, you'll need a long wooden dowel the length of 4 shells. I recommend liberally beveling both ends of the dowel to keep the plug from binding the spring.


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 Post subject: Re: re: Winchester Model 12 - Installing the plug?
PostPosted: Wed Dec 05, 2007 1:47 pm 
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Kevin Gibson wrote:
.....You still have the crossbolt in the end of the magazine.....


Quite correct.... sorry for the oversight. If I had one sitting in front of me, I'd probably have remembered the pin (but maybe not.... but if I tried to get the cap off, then I'd have remembered for sure)




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