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 Post subject: Baker Gun Co., Batavia Leader
PostPosted: Mon May 18, 2009 3:43 am 
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I would like any information on a Baker Gun Co. Batavia Leader 12Ga. side by side, I think Serial # 9816F. Are these barrels Damascus ie. wraped on a mandrel and forge welded? Are these barrels safe for standard 12Ga 2 3/4in high base amunition? Potential value range? Date of manufacture?
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 Post subject: Re: Baker Gun Co., Batavia Leader
PostPosted: Mon May 18, 2009 8:25 am 
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You can start here.


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 Post subject: Re: Baker Gun Co., Batavia Leader
PostPosted: Mon May 18, 2009 9:30 am 
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From its AGE, it is probably damascus, and was chambered for 2 5/8 or 2 9/16" shells. It should NOT be considered safe to shoot with modern ammo until it has been checked by a WELL-QUALIFIED gunsmith for barrel type and condition and chamber length.

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 Post subject: Re: Baker Gun Co., Batavia Leader
PostPosted: Tue May 19, 2009 10:24 am 
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The Batavia guns were the low priced or "field grade" models of the Baker Gun & Forging Co. To reduce costs the Batavia line did not have the "firing pin block safety" or the "draw block" which passes transversely through the barrel lug and mates into recesses in the frame, of the graded Baker hammerless guns and the Model 1897 hammer gun. After WW-I with the rise of repeaters Baker sold their gun business to H&D Folsom Co. a major marketer, manufacturer and importer of low priced guns. Folsom added the 20-gauge to the Baker line that they produced. Folsom-made Baker guns normally have an F before or after the serial number. In the very last Baker ads that I've found in old sporting magazines from April and May 1928, and October 1929, Folsom also offered a 410-bore Batavia Leader, though I've never seen one.

During the Baker Gun & Forging Co. days there were several variations of the lower priced "Batavia" line. From a 1909 copy of The Baker Gunner -- The Batavia Leader had twist barrels and listed at $25 -- The Batavia Special had steel barrels and listed at $21.75 -- The Batavia Damascus had Damascus barrels and listed at $28 -- and, finally the Batavia Brush had 26-inch twist barrels and a straight-grip stock listing at $24 and offered swivels and a sling as an option for $3. There was also a Batavia Ejector that listed at $35 with steel barrels and $37.50 with Damascus barrels. About 1915 Baker Gun & Forging Co. discontinued all these "Batavia" models and replaced them with the Black Beauty and the Black Beauty Special. In 1919 Baker sold out their gun business to H&D Folsom. H & D Folsom revived the Batavia Leader name but with steel barrels like the old Batavia Special.

From your serial number your gun is an H&D Folsom produced Batavia Leader and should have steel barrels.


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