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 Post subject: Cost savings of reloading??
PostPosted: Wed Mar 26, 2003 1:29 pm 
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Hello, <br>Here's my question to all of you. Is there a real cost savings in reloading shotshells? Where is the break even point? 500 rounds? Up until now I have been shooting clays off-and-on throughout the year. Never too serious just a fun hobby when the weather is crisp or before opening season. Recently myself and a couple guys have been checking into joining a trap league. I know I'll shoot a bunch more shells than I have in the past so should I look into reloading? With a box of shells at $3.00, how much money can be saved? <br> <p></p><i></i>




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 Post subject: Re: Cost savings of reloading??
PostPosted: Thu Mar 27, 2003 7:03 am 
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I have been asked this same question a number of times over the years, and the answer never seems to change. First, will you have to pay anything for your hulls? If so, then their cost must be figured into the equation. AA's or STS hulls usually cost around 4 cents @ when purchased once fired. This makes the cost per each reload around 1/2 cent (assuming you can get 8 reloads). Second, can you buy shot for a reasonable price? This is the single largest cost per shell. If you will have to pay $13 or more per 25# bag and you can buy shells for $3.00 per box, then you will have trouble justifying reloading. Another consideration which MUST be taken into consideration is the cost of a reloader and the maintenance on it. In short, when I look at my costs<br>per box and see that for the supplies only it runs me around $2.75 I have to question the savings. I have to place some value on my time, and when I factor in the reloader costs I know that $3.00 for new shells is very attractive. I really like to reload, though, and feel that I can custom tailor my loads to best suit my guns and purposes, so I will always reload no matter whether I can save or not. You should be aware that the figures I have quoted are based on what I have to pay for quantity purchases of supplies and refer to costs associated with loading 1 and 1 1/8 oz 12 ga target type shells. <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://pub125.ezboard.com/bshotgunworld.showUserPublicProfile?gid=instinctiveshooter@shotgunworld>Instinctive Shooter</A> at: 3/27/03 6:22:29 am<br></i>

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 Post subject: cost
PostPosted: Thu Mar 27, 2003 9:04 am 
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The smaller the quantities the higher the cost, so as IS said bulk is how to cut the overhead. There are some guys in TX that order as a group and have pallets of stuff dropped off. When you head to the local store for a 4# of powder and one 250 count of primers your cost are as much or more than buying new shells. If you dont have a local supply source than the shipping will really cut you down, the weight of shot and the hazmat on powder really bumps the cost up. I think that many of us that reload try to order/buy in as large of quantities as we can and then try not to consider the entire cost, especially if they have wives that ask. <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :rolleyes --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/intl/aenglish/images/emoticons/eyes.gif ALT=":rolleyes"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <br><br>So, why is it still popular? It's actually relaxing, the methodic, rhythmic cycling of the shells and the cha-chunk of the loader becoming a soothing sound. Tinkering with loads you can use lower power and lower shot weight loads that may very well pattern better than some of those 1-1/8 3 dram loads and are easier on the shoulder. There is the tinkering, say with Longshot and some long distance creations cost really isn't the concern when your setting up those. Then there is the aspect of making your own shells and breaking clays with your creations. <p></p><i></i>

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 Post subject: Re: cost
PostPosted: Fri Mar 28, 2003 8:44 am 
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Hey Rick,<br>Sounds like we may have had similar "problems" somewhere along the way. I was keeping a list (with prices written on it)<br>of all the reloading supplies I purchased one year. My wife-we are no longer married<!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :) --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/intl/aenglish/images/emoticons/smile.gif ALT=":)"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> -found it, and the ----hit the fan.<br>The gal I am married to now is great about it, though, and is becoming a pretty good shot herself. Since she works at WalMart we could get either AA's or STS's for around $4.50 per box with her discount. When we got married (at the local gun club) we bought several cases of promo shells at under $3.00 per box for the regulars to shoot a free round of Sporting as our way of saying thanks. No one saved those hulls, but when we do need new hulls to load I buy from the club owner as I HATE WalMart policy. There is a lot to be said for how relaxing the reloading process can be, but I think I like best the fact that it is satisfying to use something I created to smash targets with. <p></p><i></i>

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 Post subject: Check this out.
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<!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.trapshooters.com/rlcalcadv.htm">www.trapshooters.com/rlcalcadv.htm</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--> <p></p><i></i>


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 Post subject: Re: Check this out.
PostPosted: Fri Mar 28, 2003 5:02 pm 
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Hey, that is a great calculator! I've run the figures before, but this is so easy. Lets see now...the data I put in showed me that it would take 300 boxes of shells to pay for my reloader if I had no hull cost figured in. Hmm, wonder if there is some way I could remember what I have spent on repairs.<br>I usually reload around 10,000 rounds per year (400 boxes), and I know that I always have something break, so I must come out about even<!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :b --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/intl/aenglish/images/emoticons/tongue.gif ALT=":b"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> ! At least it is even, huh? <p></p><i></i>

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 Post subject: Re: Cost savings of reloading??
PostPosted: Wed Jun 12, 2013 8:25 pm 
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I have had a reloader since I was 15years old and the man that set it up for me told me like this. "You want save any money by reloading, but you will be able to shoot a lot more for the same amount of money." As I have grown older and broken the cost of reloading a box of shotgun shells to buying a box of shells I have come to the conclussion I can reload approx. 14boxes of 12ga 1oz loads for the same price of buying 10boxes of factory loads. The margin will grow in the lower gauges like the 28ga and 410. This is mainly due to the fact that the 28ga and 410 are always higher priced than the 12ga and 20ga. All this being said you can tweak your practice loads more if you are recoil sensitive or if you shotgun doesn't pattern well with the factory loads that are available in your area. I hope this helps because shooting reloads is a great way to prolong the cost of shooting.


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 Post subject: Re: Cost savings of reloading??
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 Post subject: Re: Cost savings of reloading??
PostPosted: Thu Jun 13, 2013 10:04 pm 
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hopper810 wrote:
It's always good to read 10 year old threads :)


No it's not. I read "With a box of shells at $3.00, how much money can be saved?" and starting sobbing violently.


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 Post subject: Re: Cost savings of reloading??
PostPosted: Thu Jun 13, 2013 11:07 pm 
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SNES_Chalmers wrote:
hopper810 wrote:
It's always good to read 10 year old threads :)


No it's not. I read "With a box of shells at $3.00, how much money can be saved?" and starting sobbing violently.


i think i "heave cried" at $13 a bag for shot!


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 Post subject: Re: Cost savings of reloading??
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Hell, I remember when we were all bent out of shape when it went up to $10.00 a bag! Damned inflation!!

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 Post subject: Re: Cost savings of reloading??
PostPosted: Fri Jun 14, 2013 7:22 am 
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Yes, my shot costs have recently come down a little--to $44/25-lb bag!

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 Post subject: Re: Cost savings of reloading??
PostPosted: Sat Jun 15, 2013 9:19 pm 
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Years ago I reloaded. Now I pay $0.30 a shell for Fiocchi #8 and B&P Comp One. $0.37 for STS #8 and $0.41 for Fed. Paper #8. I am thinking about reloading, but do not see any savings in time and money. But I do remember that I enjoyed reloading as much as shooting. I do know this is a old thred, but what about today prices.

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 Post subject: Re: Cost savings of reloading??
PostPosted: Mon Jun 17, 2013 8:20 am 
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I may be wrong but I think there is price gouging going on right now. If the price of lead is at eighty-eight cents on the pound ($22 per 25lbs bag) why is it selling at $44 per bag? I believe the shooter is being taken advantage of by producers, wholesalers and retailers. It is my opinion that retailers are making a profit of $8 to $11 (after tax) per bag on a bag of shot. I have noticed that shooting is down dramatically at my club, especially Trap shooting. The Skeet side of the club shooting is down as well. Things are getting so desperate skeet shooters are loading 3/4 oz 20 and 12 gauge shells.

I think the European clubs have the right idea. They put these green curtains up at approximately 125 yards. Then they purchase galvanized trough's which are secured to the ground and placed underneath curtains in order to catch the shot. Most here would be very impressed how effective this methodology is in catching shot. I also believe in shot reclamation via a large tarp. Let inventory sit for several months and watch the price of shot come down.


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 Post subject: Re: Cost savings of reloading??
PostPosted: Tue Jun 18, 2013 8:49 am 
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I reload to shoot the same load every time. It is relaxing and I know the recoil and pattern I will deal with. YMMV.

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 Post subject: Re: Cost savings of reloading??
PostPosted: Tue Jun 18, 2013 9:40 am 
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Seems to me that, today, if you have to ask that question reloading might not be for you. Savings are not the reason I reload. I simply enjoy it.

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 Post subject: Re: Cost savings of reloading??
PostPosted: Tue Jun 18, 2013 10:28 am 
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I load 12g at about $4.50/box including tax/shipping. Best price I find right now is $6/box including tax/shipping. Little better for 20g. A lot better for 28g.

I buy in bulk, and I am retired and shoot maybe 15 boxes a week. So $2 a box or more is well worth it. I can watch TV and reload at the same time. An NFL game = 2 flats. An NBA game = 1.5 flats, etc.

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 Post subject: Re: Cost savings of reloading??
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When I figure in the cost of my time, it never makes sense to reload...for me.

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 Post subject: Re: Cost savings of reloading??
PostPosted: Wed Jun 19, 2013 5:19 am 
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With the price's of supply to reload it's not as much as a saving as it was.
I still reload and save a little money. My main reason is to have a shell load you like on hand all the time.

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 19, 2013 3:16 pm 
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Even if I only save a buck per box, I enjoy reloading as much as shooting, so to me it is well worth it. Also, in my area 12ga shells have been scarce but components to load them not so much. So I always have shells to shoot.




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