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 Post subject: shot gun barrel blew up
PostPosted: Sun Oct 05, 2008 4:31 pm 
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I just went out duck hunting opening day with my brand new 12 guage Winchester Sx3 shotgun with a Briley EXR choke. I was shooting a 3 in. #2 steel and about 40 min. into the hunt my barrel blew up (it started 1 in from the forend of my gun and went out about 8in. tward the tip gun). I know that all of the preveous replies were about dropping your gun and getting mud into the barrel but this gun is never left my hands. Has anybody heard about Briley chokes and their restrictions that they may have for the # of shot to us? And if gun barrels may blow due to the size of choke used?




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PostPosted: Sun Oct 05, 2008 4:45 pm 
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A defect choke could potentially get blown out of the gun or rupture the barrel right at the muzzle. It would NOT under any circumstances cause a rupture that begins at the forend.

Sounds like a barrel obstruction to me. Did you have a blooper shell? If not, I'd bet you set the muzzle into the mud without realizing it.


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PostPosted: Mon Oct 06, 2008 4:09 am 
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Too heavy a load would have blown it out by the chamber and anything caused by the choke would have been at the muzzle end, not near the forearm? A shotcup stuck mid-way in the barrel or something of that nature? :?


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my barrel blew up (it started 1 in from the forend of my gun and went out about 8in.


That sounds like either a barrel obstruction, or accidentally using a 3.5 inch shell in there. Could that have possibly happened? measure the shells. See what length they are.

If everything was done right then I would call winchester or whoever you bought it from and say WTF??????

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 06, 2008 11:53 pm 
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i bought the Winchester SX3 in the 3 1/2 in chamber. i will call Winchester tomorrow and see what they say. wish me luck.


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check out the picture under winchester in the photo section.


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HOLY CR@P!!!

That looks like a really bad barrel obstruction to me. I've never seen one blow up quite that badly.


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That is scary!
Looks like the "cartoon shotgun blowup"!

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WOW ! I could only imagin your reaction . DId you catch a fall out from that ? Would be very interested to hear what Winchester does for you .


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PostPosted: Thu Oct 09, 2008 2:13 pm 
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yeah. I couldn't find it at first.

OMG, I don't even know what I would do if something like that were to happen.

I hope Winchester makes it right. And by make it right I mean new gun and maybe free shells for life or something.

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HOLY CRAP I think I would have to change my pants after that


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 Post subject: Re: re: shot gun barrel blew up
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I hope Winchester makes it right. And by make it right I mean new gun and maybe free shells for life or something.


Why does Winchester owe him anything? This is CLEARLY user induced obstruction. A wad from a bad shell might cause a bulge... maybe even a small rupture. This was obviously set down barrel first into mud or perhaps discharged under water.


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Is there enough potential energy in one shotgun shell to cause that amount of damage?

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I guess i'll ask the obvious question, factory ammunition or handloads?

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If its not something the guy did stupid and only one factory shell did that, even with a normal obstruction that has to be a metallurgic defect. I mean even the rib is twisted!!!!

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Even though the gun was brand new, did you clean it before you shot it. If so, could it be a left over rag left in the barrel from cleaning?

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I skirted it a bit before, but since the OP hasn't responded in a few days...

Based on the catastrophic damage to this barrel, I don't think it was an ordinary cleaning patch, stuck wad or small obstruction. A massively overloaded shell would have ruptured the breach, not so far down the barrel. As far as I'm concered, there are two possible causes, and I suspect the second..

1) Several inches of soft, sticky mud packed in the end of the barrel (using the gun as a walking stick/support to get in the boat?

2) Gun was fired with the muzzle submerged in water.

Either way, there's absolutely no way that there wasn't a SERIOUS obstruction in the barrel. Barrels, even weak ones, don't just "blow up"... the shot and gasses will take the path of least resistance, which is usually down and unobstructed muzzle.


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Has anyone any first-hand knowledge of a failure similar to this and, if so, what are the circumstances surrounding it?



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