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 Post subject: Victor Plain American Gun Company
PostPosted: Thu Dec 18, 2008 11:26 pm 
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Hello Folks,

I am new to this site. Have a question that someone on this forum can probably answer:

I recently recovered an old shotgun that belonged to my late father. The name of the company is stamped on the receiver:

Victor Plain
American Gun Co New York.

It's a single shot, 12 Ga. Looks to be in reasonably good shape, enough that I was planning on making use of it. I did a google search on it and one of the comments I found suggested that these old guns may not be safe for use with modern ammunition.

So my questions are:

Can anyone tell me about this company and would this shotgun be safe to use? I know the last part of that question has "liability" written all over it so I ask this as a general question about that line of shotguns and not necessarily about the one I have.

Thanks

Robert


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 Post subject: re: Victor Plain American Gun Company
PostPosted: Fri Dec 19, 2008 1:34 am 
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I would have a competant gunsmith examine it and get his advise before even thinking about firing the shotgun.

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 Post subject: re: Victor Plain American Gun Company
PostPosted: Fri Dec 19, 2008 5:54 am 
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It was a cheaply made gun when new, and probably wasn't very safe to shoot then, much less now. However, a competent gunsmith is the only one who can tell you for sure... if it were mine, I'd relegate it to wallhanger status,


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 Post subject: re: Victor Plain American Gun Company
PostPosted: Fri Dec 19, 2008 5:57 pm 
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Welcome Robert.

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 Post subject: re: Victor Plain American Gun Company
PostPosted: Sat Dec 20, 2008 11:40 am 
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Your gun was made by Crescent Arms. This company actually made guns for a large number of concerns that sold the guns under their name, or trade names. They are known as 'contract guns' and were made for the low-end, utility market. They were meat guns and probably cost $7-$10 new.

The guns evolved thru 3 models but since they were not serialized it would be almost impossible to date your gun. I would certainly have it checked by a competent gunsmith before I fired it and take his/her advise.


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 Post subject: re: Victor Plain American Gun Company
PostPosted: Sat Dec 20, 2008 2:22 pm 
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The 'Victor' trade name was used on Crescent guns made for Hibbard, Spencer & Bartlett
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 Post subject: Re: Victor Plain American Gun Company
PostPosted: Sat Jan 05, 2013 9:49 pm 
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I have just joined.
I have my Grandfather's Victor Plain 12 GA, serial # 313552 and would like to find out it's age.
Is there a registry somewhere that might have these records? {hs#


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 Post subject: Re: Victor Plain American Gun Company
PostPosted: Mon Jan 07, 2013 3:12 am 
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Victor Plain American Gun Company shotguns were made by the Crescent Firearms Company of Norwich,CT (1892 to 1930+). Their records were lost during a scrap paper drive in 1943 during World War Two. However the late Mr. Joseph T. Vorisek reconstructed the serial number-year made tables during research for his book "The Breech Loading Shotgun In American 1865 to 1940". Will need to know if the gun is a single barrel or a double barrel with outside hammers or is a hammerless in order to give you the correct date.


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 Post subject: Re: Victor Plain American Gun Company
PostPosted: Mon Jan 07, 2013 10:21 am 
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More information here
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 Post subject: Re: Victor Plain American Gun Company
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 Post subject: Re: Victor Plain American Gun Company
PostPosted: Mon Jan 07, 2013 2:52 pm 
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Because someone did a Search! Not a bad thing, in this case. :)

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 Post subject: Re: Victor Plain American Gun Company
PostPosted: Tue Jan 14, 2014 8:03 am 
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I have a Victor Plain 12 gauge...I have put 25 oo buck through it in 20 min...had a sore shoulder for 2 weeks ....it is built like a tank. I just bough another one for $40 I liked it so much. Going to use it for turkey hunting this spring..


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 Post subject: Re: Victor Plain American Gun Company
PostPosted: Tue Jan 14, 2014 3:47 pm 
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These old guns were inexpensive, not cheap by our present day standards selling for between $10.00 to $15.00 when new.This was back when wages were $1.00 to $2.00 a day. They were also well made but no one with any sense is going to say a particular gun is safe to shoot because we can't see it to determine its condition.


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 Post subject: Re: Victor Plain American Gun Company
PostPosted: Tue Jan 14, 2014 4:15 pm 
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I had mine checked out and used low pressure loads first....


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 Post subject: Re: Victor Plain American Gun Company
PostPosted: Tue Jan 14, 2014 5:11 pm 
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Proper , correct and safe thing to do. Have fun with your gun.


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 Post subject: Re: Victor Plain American Gun Company
PostPosted: Wed Jan 15, 2014 8:07 am 
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I love old shotguns...they seem smoother when fired...


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 Post subject: Re: Victor Plain American Gun Company
PostPosted: Wed Jan 15, 2014 4:40 pm 
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I like them as well, so much I have collected 205 of them of various names. I haven't fired one in over 15 years.


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