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 Post subject: old cresent arms double hammerless serial #08727
PostPosted: Tue Sep 29, 2009 12:07 pm 
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a friend of mine just gave me this shotgun not much varnish left on stock blueing has some surface ruct but no major pitting and barrells fairly tight to reciever and does not appear to be demassca steel does anyone have any information as to age and value.


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 Post subject: Re: old cresent arms double hammerless serial #08727
PostPosted: Tue Sep 29, 2009 7:58 pm 
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You really don't give us enough information to properly identify your shotgun. Crescent Fire Arms of Norwich,CT (1892 to 1932) made several (at least four) different models of double barrel hammerless shotguns.The models differ in gauge, some in the standard gauges like 12, 16, 20 gauge and .410 bore and some in 28 gauge, .44 shot and .410 bore and some in ,410 bore only. Barrel lengths varies as well as barrel material, damascus and fluid steel. All the examples illustrated in my reference book were made between 1895 and 1932. The two serial number-year made tables that are listed says your gun was made in either 1904 or 1921. Value? Values depend on the guns condition, amount of original finish left on the metal and wood as well as the mechanical condition. Crescent made shotguns were all utilitarian inexpensive guns when new and haven't increased in value that much. An example that appears to have come out of the factory yesterday afternoon might bring $200 while a rusty rotten incomplete piece of junk would go for $10.00. Only a hands on examination or a very good set of photographs can determine the condition.


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 Post subject: Re: old cresent arms double hammerless serial #08727
PostPosted: Wed Sep 30, 2009 5:20 am 
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lets start over the gun is a new empire 12ga barrel length is 30inches. no cracks in stock forearm missing small piece of wood near thefront on the very edge. there is no proof marks on the barrel that i can find. the inturnal hammer plates show left side is new empire right side says crescent arm co. norwich conn. finish blueing is about 50 precent. varnish about the same checkering is still visable. the hard rubber grip cap is there but some chippine around the leading edge. it has a vented rubber recoil pad marked wfs with flying ducks ont it. as stated in earlier message the not bad condition barell tight to reciever with very little play no piting some lite surface rest any idea of date manufactured and value. the blue book shows from 1425 to 600 would this be a fair value. thanks again suitty


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 Post subject: Re: old cresent arms double hammerless serial #08727
PostPosted: Wed Sep 30, 2009 9:28 am 
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 Post subject: Re: old cresent arms double hammerless serial #08727
PostPosted: Wed Sep 30, 2009 8:07 pm 
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O.K. now that we know the name, we can offer a bit more information. New Empire shotguns were made by Crescent Fire Arms as we all know now. The name was used from 1920 to 1932 by Crescent and until 1935 by Crescent-Davis Fire Arms. This particular gun was made in 1921. The guns were made for and sold at wholesale by H & D Folsome Company of New York City, a wholesale and retail sporting goods dealer. As an aside, Folsome owned Crescent and whatever Folsome wanted Crescent made. And what they wanted was a lot of inexpensive shotguns fast. Crescent was the largest maker of "Trade Brand Name" shotguns ever making over 2,000,000 shotguns using over 400 different names. I question the values you quote. "Trade Brand Name" shotguns even the better made ones don't bring high prices. Based on the description you give and the fact that the butt pad is an after market replacement, I would say the gun is in fair condition and might sell for maybe $175.00


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 Post subject: Re: old cresent arms double hammerless serial #08727
PostPosted: Wed Sep 30, 2009 10:32 pm 
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ned thanks for your information on this new empire shotgun suitty


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