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 Post subject: What do you use the Cylinder Choke for?
PostPosted: Fri Oct 16, 2009 11:22 pm 
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What do you use the Cylinder choke for? My Benelli came with C, IC, M, IM and F chokes. I've used the IC thru F chokes but have never had reason to use the Cylinder choke. I'm told it is too open for Skeet and quail. Does it have any practical use?


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 Post subject: Re: What do you use the Cylinder Choke for?
PostPosted: Fri Oct 16, 2009 11:31 pm 
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It is very practical for home defense. As far as skeet and quail go, I don't think that there's any thing that's "too open." I wish that there was something mre open than a "C" choke at times so one could get paterns like a video game up close.

Basically, the closer the target, the more open the constriction should be. If you don't have a use for cylinder choke, you must be one heck of a shot!


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PostPosted: Fri Oct 16, 2009 11:46 pm 
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On guns for which I don't have skeet choke tubes, I use C/IC. Cylinder works fine for the first shot. It's good enough for rec skeet; I can shoot in the low 20s without much difficulty.

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 16, 2009 11:56 pm 
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A cylinder choke will break targets further out than you can believe.

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 Post subject: Re: What do you use the Cylinder Choke for?
PostPosted: Sat Oct 17, 2009 12:43 am 
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I'm one who likes the cyl or imp cyl for quail.


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 Post subject: Re: What do you use the Cylinder Choke for?
PostPosted: Sat Oct 17, 2009 3:58 am 
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Cyl or skt choke is just the ticket for hunting quail on overgrown river bottoms behind good pointing dogs. I've always liked open chokes for the close-in hunting situations, strictly instinctive point-and-shoot.
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 Post subject: Re: What do you use the Cylinder Choke for?
PostPosted: Sat Oct 17, 2009 6:16 am 
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Some of us prefer CYLINDER choke for skeet, and for certain sporting clays stations, especially that rascally bunny!

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 Post subject: Re: What do you use the Cylinder Choke for?
PostPosted: Sat Oct 17, 2009 6:34 am 
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If you can break skeet birds regularly with 5/8 oz in a 28 gauge using skeet choke, I think going to a cylinder choke in 12 ga with almost twice the shot is obvious. I understand that a more open choke also throws a more even pattern distribution.

And on a skeet range, for most shooters, the more open choke should be used for the second shot (approaching) in doubles.


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 Post subject: Re: What do you use the Cylinder Choke for?
PostPosted: Sat Oct 17, 2009 6:54 am 
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Cylinder used to be used a lot for skeet. For a while
Russian Tula chokes were popular for skeet, because
they produced larger patterns than cylinder bore,
when used with old style fiber wads that had no
protective plastic cup around the shot. These chokes
allowed gas to bypass the base wad and go around
the wad when the shot and wad entered into the
enlarged portion of the barrel/choke at the muzzle end
and this escaping gas could stir up the unprotected
shot column making for a larger pattern than even
cylinder bore. They did not give a larger pattern though
if the shot column was protected by the plastic sleeve
found on the one piece plastic wads. Also at the time,
international skeet was shot with 1 and 1/8th ounce of
shot. With that much shot a larger than cylinder bore
pattern could be used effectively on ranges up to
skeet ranges. As shot sizes were reduced for international
skeet, a little choke became necessary for the reduced
amount of shot to pattern effectively at skeet ranges,
and it also became hard to find old fashioned wads with
no protective shot cup covering the shot. Still though,
cylinder bore patterns with 1 and 1/8 th ounce work
very well at close shots like American skeet.

Also, I agree with myles:
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I understand that a more open choke also throws a more even pattern distribution.


I found that cylinder bore gave more uniform patterns at close ranges,
under 25 yards, than chokes like skeet and imp cylinder does. There
seemed to be less central thickening in the cylinder bore patterns.

Yevgeni Petrov won the 1968 Olympic skeet with 198 out of 200
shooting Russian chokes that produced larger than cylinder bore
patterns. This was with ounce and an eighth loads (although
probably called something else in grams of shot) with no
plastic shot cup.

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 Post subject: Re: What do you use the Cylinder Choke for?
PostPosted: Sat Oct 17, 2009 9:37 am 
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military shotguns are usually fixed on cyl.
00`s must work in them !


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 Post subject: Re: What do you use the Cylinder Choke for?
PostPosted: Sat Oct 17, 2009 10:23 am 
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If more hunters used CYl or IC for upland hunting, they'd kill more game. For grouse and woodcock, I'll have CYL & IC tubes in my doubles. For pheasant, I'll switch to SKT/MOD in my 20 doubles. If I take out my 12 ga., the tubes I always use are CYL/IC. I hunt over a pointing dog, so shots are usually close. You'd be surprised how effective an IC choke can be for pheasant out to 35 yards in a 12 gauge throwing payloads like 1 1/8 oz. or 1 1/4 oz. of #6 or #5 hard or copper-plated shot.


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PostPosted: Sat Oct 17, 2009 10:43 am 
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I also have a Benelli. I used the IC tube and found I was "smoking" too many skeet targets. Looks impressive but seemed to tell me the choke was tight. I went to the Cyl tube and have never gone back. Nice clean breaks.

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 Post subject: Re: What do you use the Cylinder Choke for?
PostPosted: Sat Oct 17, 2009 2:16 pm 
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Have two 28ga (O/U & SxS). Both have screw in chokes and are my quail hunting guns. Shoot both with Cyl and Skt chokein them. Works real well for me and have rolled quail out to 50 yds using the Skt as second shot.


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 Post subject: Re: What do you use the Cylinder Choke for?
PostPosted: Sat Oct 17, 2009 2:25 pm 
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Forty years ago, or so, cylinder choke was considered something of a redheaded stepchild for shotgunners. The reason was the ammunition that was available back then was inferior to todays standard and required at least a little bit of constriction to control the pattern, even at close ranges. Once we went to harder shot and protective shot cups, cylinder patterns became more consistant. Today, with good ammunition, as curley said, you'll be surprised.

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Skeet... Any bird that holds and you can use 8 shot size or smaller... Mearns or Mountain quail comes to mind...

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My first barrel on my 20 and my 28 for upland is CYL, and in the early part of the duck and goose season, my 20 gauge has the first barrel screwed with a CYL choke more often than not.
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Count me as another C/IC user for pointed quail. If I used a repater I'd probably screw in a Skeet tube.


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I shoot a lot of sporting clays with Cylinder and Skeet chokes in my K80!

This setup works great for me!

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 17, 2009 8:58 pm 
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Slugs! A cylinder bore works very well with most foster slugs. IMHO a fixed cylinder bore works better than just about any other option assuming your chosen slug fit the bore tightly or will obturate to bore diameter.

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 17, 2009 9:19 pm 
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About a month ago, I was shooting sporting clays at our club. This particular station had one of the report pair targets as a 40 yard edge-on crosser that was dropping and turning to show just a tiny bit of dome just before it went into the bushes.

I usually do reasonably well at these shots but on this occasion I hit only 2 of the 5 targets with my Modified choke. Another shooter who is not known as a particularly good shooter shot the station and broke 4 of the 5 targets. He didn't smash the targets, but they DID break.

After he finished shooting, I asked him what choke he was using. He smiled and said "Cylinder". :)

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