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 Post subject: Target vs game loads
PostPosted: Tue Oct 20, 2009 10:32 am 
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I'm new to shooting and this summer I bought target loads to practice on clays with my 20 ga. Now that quail season is here I realize that I need to get game loads 7.5's or 8's, or do I? What is the difference between target and game loads, and for quail does it matter?




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 Post subject: Re: Target vs game loads
PostPosted: Tue Oct 20, 2009 2:25 pm 
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For smaller game such as doves, quail, rabbits, etc., I use the same shells as I do for clays. Unless you're buying the most expensive target loads (which I don't), the only real difference between the target and light game loads may be an extra 1/8 ounce of shot or so in the field loads. Plus field loads may include #6 shot where as the target stuff is probably either #7.5 or #8 shot. What you have should be fine.


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 Post subject: Re: Target vs game loads
PostPosted: Tue Oct 20, 2009 8:58 pm 
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Idec;
Thanks for the info. I'm headed out tomorrow for quail, and I'll let you know how I do.


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 Post subject: Re: Target vs game loads
PostPosted: Thu Oct 22, 2009 4:20 pm 
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Idek,

The target loads work fine. Shot my first three quail yesterday, what a great sport! Thanks again for your help.


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 Post subject: Re: Target vs game loads
PostPosted: Thu Oct 22, 2009 7:25 pm 
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Nice work. What #shot size did you use?


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 Post subject: Re: Target vs game loads
PostPosted: Thu Oct 22, 2009 7:43 pm 
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its no problem man , you can drop a quail with just 1 or 2 pellets! Now don't turn that on a pheasant or jack rabbit!

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 Post subject: Re: Target vs game loads
PostPosted: Fri Oct 23, 2009 10:14 am 
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Indeed. When I go to shoot Pheasants or Rabbits, I shift to #4 shot

Since I am reloading my own, I opt for 1-1/4 ounce loads in 12 gauge, and 1-1/8 oz in 20 gauge. That way, I don't have to go hunting all over hell's half acre for wounded game which has wandered off.

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 Post subject: Re: Target vs game loads
PostPosted: Fri Oct 23, 2009 5:24 pm 
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Idek,
I was shooting #7.5's. Next week I will try my hand at pheasants. I have been told #6 is appropriate but I see others suggest #4's. So is #6 too light with not enough power for a clean kill?


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PostPosted: Fri Oct 23, 2009 8:23 pm 
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Number 6 shot will work well on pheasants at close to medium range, but I prefer #5 shot. If I had to pick either #6 or #4, I would pick #4 unless I knew I was going to be shooting the birds at close range.

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 Post subject: Re: Target vs game loads
PostPosted: Sat Oct 24, 2009 1:26 pm 
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I will try the #5's as I am not sure about the range of my shots and this seems like a reasonable compromise until I get more experience.


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 Post subject: Re: Target vs game loads
PostPosted: Sun Oct 25, 2009 3:11 pm 
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nwcanoe wrote:
I will try the #5's as I am not sure about the range of my shots and this seems like a reasonable compromise until I get more experience.


5's are good. Because you are shooting a 20 most people say the pattern density is a little thin with #4's. #4's are good in a 12 guage.

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 Post subject: Re: Target vs game loads
PostPosted: Mon Oct 26, 2009 1:03 am 
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I only shoot #5 or 6 from my 20 ga. for pheasants. Then again, that's all I'll use out of my 12 ga. too.

A more open choke and smaller shot will provide a wider yet still dense enough pattern which is nice for the closer shots. Personally, I'm willing to sacrifice 5 or so yards of range if it means shooting a higher percent and getting cleaner kills on the close birds. I'd rather let the one at 40 yards go than miss the one at 20.


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 Post subject: Re: Target vs game loads
PostPosted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 10:59 am 
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usually target cartridges are faster, harder pellets. 5%sb (antimony)
harder, to reduce deformation, from the speed !

game cartridges are slower, usually due to the higher payload (thats shot), and the shot is often softer 2% antimony.

target loads and game loads, can sometimes be interchanged.
7, 1/2 for dove and sporting clays.
6`s for trap and pheseant.

i once used #4 for clays, its shells i wanted used.


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 Post subject: Re: Target vs game loads
PostPosted: Sun Nov 08, 2009 11:41 pm 
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cookoff013 wrote:
usually target cartridges are faster, harder pellets. 5%sb (antimony)
harder, to reduce deformation, from the speed !

game cartridges are slower, usually due to the higher payload (thats shot), and the shot is often softer 2% antimony.

target loads and game loads, can sometimes be interchanged.
7, 1/2 for dove and sporting clays.
6`s for trap and pheseant.

i once used #4 for clays, its shells i wanted used.

It should be noted that #6 shot is not allowed at most shotgun ranges, at least that I know of. 7-1/2's are normally the largest shot size allowed.



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