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 Post subject: 410 hunting...2.5 vs. 3 inch shell?
PostPosted: Thu Dec 03, 2009 8:42 pm 
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I have a single shot full choke 410 that I would like to try and hunt quail with.

Ive pattened Remington 3 inch 7.5 shot at 20 yards and wasn't impressed. The pattern had a very dense core about 8-10 inches in diameter, and sparse fringes full of flyers around the entire center.

I assume this is because of the large amount of deformed shot due to the full choke?

Would 2.5 inch shells pattern any better?


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 Post subject: Re: 410 hunting...2.5 vs. 3 inch shell?
PostPosted: Thu Dec 03, 2009 10:43 pm 
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I have always gotten my best patterns from 3" 6shot. Second best is 3" 4shot.

2 3/4" shells and my old mossberg 183df bolt just dont pattern well at all.

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 Post subject: Re: 410 hunting...2.5 vs. 3 inch shell?
PostPosted: Fri Dec 04, 2009 3:21 pm 
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guvnor wrote:
I have a single shot full choke 410 that I would like to try and hunt quail with.

Ive pattened Remington 3 inch 7.5 shot at 20 yards and wasn't impressed. The pattern had a very dense core about 8-10 inches in diameter, and sparse fringes full of flyers around the entire center.

I assume this is because of the large amount of deformed shot due to the full choke?

Would 2.5 inch shells pattern any better?


First, "better" needs to be defined. In this case, you're looking for more open.

The obvious fliers relate to the long - and only partially protected - shot column. Your real problem is the full constriction. 2.5" shells will dump a higher percentage of their payload into the core, IME. Core will look less dense to your eye b/c the absolute number of pellets will decrease. But that might, at least, help you not burgerize the quail.

Unless the gun is collectible I would open the constriction to about .005. You can also try some different brands of 3" shells. Those RPs are my favorites for wingshooting, but I'm using around .008. I found the WW 3" shell throws a slightly more open pattern than the RP. The Fiocchi 3" load (at least, the one I dissected) uses a wad that lacks petals. That might open the pattern to suit you.

Sam


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 Post subject: Re: 410 hunting...2.5 vs. 3 inch shell?
PostPosted: Wed Dec 09, 2009 12:12 am 
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Try the 2-1/2" Winchester Super Sport Sporting Clays in 8.5 or 8 shot @1300 fps. I've shot a lot of wild quail with #9,#8.5 &#8 shot in 2-1/2 & 3" .410 and have better luck with the smaller shot with in range.<15 to 25yrds>


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 Post subject: Re: 410 hunting...2.5 vs. 3 inch shell?
PostPosted: Wed Dec 09, 2009 11:54 pm 
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I hunt quail almost exclusively with a Rem. 1100 LW and have tried both 2.5" and 3". Always seems that the 2.5" with 8.5's do the best.

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 Post subject: Re: 410 hunting...2.5 vs. 3 inch shell?
PostPosted: Sat Dec 12, 2009 6:01 pm 
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if you're shooting pinned birds, usually 3 pellets will down these. I would open the choke up myself. myself, I'm a 2.5 with 8.5


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 Post subject: Re: 410 hunting...2.5 vs. 3 inch shell?
PostPosted: Sun Dec 13, 2009 6:44 pm 
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I am NO expert, However that being said I have shot Dove and quail the last two seasons almost exclusive with my .410 personal reloads 2.5inch with just a smidge over 1/2/ ounce of no 9 shot.. while there are limits to the patter with 3" or 2.5 you can still reach out and touch something with these. The only difference IMO is the amount of shot a .410 shoots. Otherwise distance and energy same as most 12 gauges. just my humble .02 your mileadge may vary.

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 Post subject: Re: 410 hunting...2.5 vs. 3 inch shell?
PostPosted: Wed May 18, 2011 12:14 pm 
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TexasQuailman wrote:
Try the 2-1/2" Winchester Super Sport Sporting Clays in 8.5 or 8 shot @1300 fps. I've shot a lot of wild quail with #9,#8.5 &#8 shot in 2-1/2 & 3" .410 and have better luck with the smaller shot with in range.<15 to 25yrds>


I couldn't agree more with TexasQuailman, AA 8 1/2s are hard to beat for doves and quail!

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