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 Post subject: 28ga -Sporting Loads Longshot vs 20/28 Powder
PostPosted: Wed Jan 27, 2010 7:43 pm 
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Have any of you switched from Longshot to Alliant 20/28 powder?
I was wondering if you like the 20/28 better then Longshot and why?
I currently use the Claybuster CB 5034-HS wads and 15.5 grains of LS Winchester AA HS hulls. It appears I can get similar results with only 13.5 grains of 20/28 using the same components. I use my 28ga primarily sporting clays and some dove hunting. I have noticed that my gun seems to like the Winchester SuperSport Sporting Clays loads even better then my current reloads. I use hard magnum shot and don't know what type of shot Winchester uses in these load chilled or magnum shot.

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 Post subject: Re: 28ga -Sporting Loads Longshot vs 20/28 Powder
PostPosted: Thu Jan 28, 2010 10:36 am 
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I'm sure results will vary, but....

I tried the 20/28 as soon as it came out. I wasn't impressed and the
loads felt a little tame. I was shooting new Rem STS loads and these
relaods at the same time to test performance.
I picked up a can of Longshot after a recommendation from a fellow
shooter. It wasn't as clean as HS-6 and didn't meter all that
consistantly in my MEC Sizemaster. To get correct consistant charges
I had to jump up one size on the bushing to match the load data.
I have changed back to HS-6 since trying 20/28 and Longshot.
I'm using STS/N27 Hulls, STS primers and PT28s wads. I find that
HS-6 is cleaner burning. I also use the HS-6 for hot 9mm
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 Post subject: Re: 28ga -Sporting Loads Longshot vs 20/28 Powder
PostPosted: Thu Jan 28, 2010 8:56 pm 
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The only powder I have used for 28 gauge is 20/28. I like the powder it is clean and meters well. I shoot skeet and sporting clays.

my recipie is
13 grains 20/28
cb5034 wads
waahs hulls
win primer
1200 fps

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 Post subject: Re: 28ga -Sporting Loads Longshot vs 20/28 Powder
PostPosted: Sat Jan 30, 2010 11:41 am 
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Thanks for the comments.

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 Post subject: Re: 28ga -Sporting Loads Longshot vs 20/28 Powder
PostPosted: Sat Jan 30, 2010 1:36 pm 
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I can't say i've ever used longshot in 28 gauge, but have in 20 gauge. It's dirty and just shouldn't be for the pressure the load I was shooting. I switched after reading about 20/28 and haven't looked back. 20/28 powder meters well, burns MUCH cleaner, is American made, runs at lower pressures compared to longshot and is cheaper to boot. If your looking to switch, just buy a pound and try it, I believe you'll be hooked. I do load 20/28 in 28 gauge for a 1,250 load (can't remember what grain weight) I don't like SLOW stuff for sporting clays.

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 Post subject: Re: 28ga -Sporting Loads Longshot vs 20/28 Powder
PostPosted: Mon Feb 01, 2010 10:09 pm 
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berettaclayshooter wrote:
I can't say i've ever used longshot in 28 gauge, but have in 20 gauge. It's dirty and just shouldn't be for the pressure the load I was shooting. I switched after reading about 20/28 and haven't looked back. 20/28 powder meters well, burns MUCH cleaner, is American made, runs at lower pressures compared to longshot and is cheaper to boot. If your looking to switch, just buy a pound and try it, I believe you'll be hooked. I do load 20/28 in 28 gauge for a 1,250 load (can't remember what grain weight) I don't like SLOW stuff for sporting clays.

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Thats is very reason I like Longshot: 20 ga. 1250 f.p.s. starting load @ 8700 p.s.i. and 28 ga: 1225 f.p.s. @ 10,700 p.s.i.

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 Post subject: Re: 28ga -Sporting Loads Longshot vs 20/28 Powder
PostPosted: Tue Feb 02, 2010 12:33 pm 
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I guess I will get a pound of 20/28 and shoot some patterns to see if my gun likes it.


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 Post subject: Re: 28ga -Sporting Loads Longshot vs 20/28 Powder
PostPosted: Fri Feb 12, 2010 5:27 pm 
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I have some 28 ga. Winchester game loads with 1oz. of shot. Can I make a reload with 1 oz.? If so, what is the recipe?


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 Post subject: Re: 28ga -Sporting Loads Longshot vs 20/28 Powder
PostPosted: Fri Feb 12, 2010 8:19 pm 
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loop02 wrote:
I have some 28 ga. Winchester game loads with 1oz. of shot. Can I make a reload with 1 oz.? If so, what is the recipe?


Yes, but maybe not with that hull. Hodgdon lists these 2 loads with Fiocchi hulls.

Load Type Gauge Shot Wt. Powder Primer Wad Powder Wt. (Gr.) Pressure Vel. (ft/s)

Lead Shot 28 1 oz. Lil'Gun Ched. 209 BP HV28 23 11,700 PSI 1200
Lead Shot 28 1 oz. Lil'Gun Fio. 616 BP HV28 23.5 12,000 PSI 1200

IMHO, if you need 1 oz, you need a 20 gauge.

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 Post subject: Re: 28ga -Sporting Loads Longshot vs 20/28 Powder
PostPosted: Sat Feb 13, 2010 10:22 pm 
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Is there a 20/28 heavy field load recipe?
3/4 oz. 1250-1300 fps range

Looks like mostly target load recipes.


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 Post subject: Re: 28ga -Sporting Loads Longshot vs 20/28 Powder
PostPosted: Sun Feb 14, 2010 7:49 am 
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Kelgin wrote:
Is there a 20/28 heavy field load recipe?
3/4 oz. 1250-1300 fps range

Looks like mostly target load recipes.


Alliant's website shows several 1250 fps loads. http://www.alliantpowder.com/reloaders/ ... ndex.aspx&

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 Post subject: Re: 28ga -Sporting Loads Longshot vs 20/28 Powder
PostPosted: Sun Feb 14, 2010 3:51 pm 
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I shoot the 1,250 20/28 powder load. SMASHES clays!

Win. AAHS 20ga hull
Win. 209 primer
16.7 Grain Alliant 20/28 powder
Windjammer 20ga. wad
.875 Oz. #8 mag. shot
1,250FPS/ 10,690PSI

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 Post subject: Re: 28ga -Sporting Loads Longshot vs 20/28 Powder
PostPosted: Sun Feb 14, 2010 6:05 pm 
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Is anyone actually running these loads through a chronograph? I chrono my rifle and handgun loads, but I'm leary of shooting a shotgun through it.

I liked the Longshot load for 20 gauge pub. 1220FPS with 1 oz. I was doing pretty good at sporting clays, I mainly shoot 7/8 oz at 1200 with Int Clays. I've gone back to the 7/8 oz load because I'm cheap.

I want to get a press for 28 ga. so I can shoot it more, I plan on using 20/28 powder as I can get 8lb jugs pretty easily local. Then I will only need Red Dot for my 12 ga and the 20/28 for the subs.

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 Post subject: Re: 28ga -Sporting Loads Longshot vs 20/28 Powder
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 Post subject: Re: 28ga -Sporting Loads Longshot vs 20/28 Powder
PostPosted: Sat Oct 30, 2010 10:11 pm 
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I shoot 5's and 6's at pheasants, and I am trying to get a denser pattern with the larger shot. that is why I use 1 oz. in a 28 ga.


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 Post subject: Re: 28ga -Sporting Loads Longshot vs 20/28 Powder
PostPosted: Sun Oct 31, 2010 7:31 pm 
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I recently switched to 20/28 for the same reason as BCS. I found the powder to be dirty, and it seemed extremely loud. I'm new to the 28ga but I've used Clays for 12ga and thought Longshot would be cleaner. JMO - FWIW

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 Post subject: Re: 28ga -Sporting Loads Longshot vs 20/28 Powder
PostPosted: Sun Oct 31, 2010 7:47 pm 
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emaki: I have recently used Alliant's Pro Reach powder for 28 ga. I only had components for the STS hull load. I have to say loaded with # 7.5 shot they copy the Remington Nitro sporting factory load very close. Smash targets out to 35 yrds with LM & M chokes (quite a few were smoke balls). So if you like the Super Sports, try the new Pro Reach, has kinda the same burn rate as Long Shot (lower pressure and high velocity) but burns much cleaner.

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 Post subject: Re: 28ga -Sporting Loads Longshot vs 20/28 Powder
PostPosted: Fri Dec 03, 2010 8:39 pm 
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Yes, I switched from Longshot to 2028 for my 28 gauge target loads. For me it was simply a matter of convenience. I was already using 2028 for my 20 gauge so I switched the 28 ga. just so I'd only have to stock one powder for both gauges. I haven't noticed any difference in performance between the two powders. I only shoot targets casually and for fun, serious shooters may be more discerning.


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 Post subject: Re: 28ga -Sporting Loads Longshot vs 20/28 Powder
PostPosted: Sat Dec 04, 2010 10:18 am 
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I'm still working off my supply of Longshot for 20 and 28 gauge. Next time I need powder, if they don't have Longshot, then I will try 20/28. (When you have something that works well for you, why change?)

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Ballistic Products has reload data for 7/8 anmd 1 ounce 28 ga loads that use Lil gun. I have loaded some 7/8 loads and they pattern well.



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