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 Post subject: Adjustable choke on ted williams gun
PostPosted: Tue Feb 02, 2010 5:28 pm 
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Hello all,
New to the forum, but not so much to shotgunning.
I just traded an old S&W 916A Police gun in on a Ted Williams model 300 12ga. with adjustable choke in great condition, though I've not shot it yet.

My question is how do you adjust the choke properly? Do you screw it all the way in and turn incrementally, or all the way in for full choke and way out for imp. cyl.?

The reason I ask is because it looks like its still a tight choke even on imp.cyl. when I start from the all the way in position, and opens up a lot when screwed out.
Any help is appreciated.


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 Post subject: Re: Adjustable choke on ted williams gun
PostPosted: Tue Feb 02, 2010 7:30 pm 
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A Good Old "Dial a Duck" :lol: Yeah!......I don't have experience with the Ted Williams choke but here is how the similar "Poly Choke" works......
first screw it all the way down...then back it off just untill the first "Full" indication is reached....that is your full setting.
now keep backing it off incrementally for only one revolution/rotation back to where it says full ......this would be your Cylinder setting....obviously I/C, Mod, & I/Mod will be in between :lol:

I've used a number of guns with them over the years....mostly one gets about .0055" constriction per click in a 12ga
about .005" in a 16ga..........about .0045" in 20ga.......and about .004" in a 28ga.....I've never owned an adjustable choke device on a .410 bore other than choke tubes.....
If you have a snap gauge and a micrometer you can verify what the change per click is in your gun......
knowing the size of the bore as well is nice also as it allows you to somewhat predict the outcome and minimize trips to the patterning board...and counting of holes.

But back to the begining...if your adjusting collar stops more closed than "full" that will be more constriction than full...but whether it is too tight (overchoked) or not, you will have to experiment to determine.....

conversely....a couple (two) clicks more open than the Cylinder may or may not actually give wider dispersion...again experimentation is in order......
pay attention that it doesn't loosen further when fired from a wide open + setting....I've never seen it happen but an old Uncle of mine swears he knows a guy that shot one right off....wellllll :roll: yeah right....
They work quite well from my experience...they're soooo much more convient than tubes..... and you can very often buy very good guns at a bargin if one is attached :wink: some folks are real dolts :lol: .....Art

Oh Yeah....screw the collar all the way off once in a while as they get god awlful dirty after a while......and be careful of the adjusting fingers on the end of the barrel when you have the collor off as they are breakable and not fixable......

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 Post subject: Re: Adjustable choke on ted williams gun
PostPosted: Wed Feb 03, 2010 12:08 am 
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I had the pump version TW in 12 ga. If I got into a shooting slump; go back to the TW and it was back in the groove.

Lizardbreath is correct. Screw all the way down then back off to what setting you want it on. I shot many rounds of steel through that Ted Williams model 200 with out a hitch modified or more open, 2 3/4" that is and not mags. It was made in 1966. I kept the steel loads under 1400 fps.

Winchester made those guns and you have a Winchester 1400 with a different dress on. But she will dance. :)

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 Post subject: Re: Adjustable choke on ted williams gun
PostPosted: Wed Feb 03, 2010 1:16 am 
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I had the pump version TW in 12 ga. If I got into a shooting slump; go back to the TW and it was back in the groove.

Lizardbreath is correct. Screw all the way down then back off to what setting you want it on. I shot many rounds of steel through that Ted Williams model 200 with out a hitch modified or more open, 2 3/4" that is and not mags. It was made in 1966. I kept the steel loads under 1400 fps.

Winchester made those guns and you have a Winchester 1400 with a different dress on. But she will dance. :)


I like that phrase. its got a different dress on but it will dance. Im gnna use that one of these days. {hs# i think the elder winchester pumps and semis were awesome guns. i got 4 1300's


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 Post subject: Re: Adjustable choke on ted williams gun
PostPosted: Wed Feb 03, 2010 10:52 am 
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Just an added note. Can't remember his name, but in the '70s the clay champion used an 'out of the box' 1400 (TW 300). I think the only modification was a Simmons rib. As far as I know, he still holds the record of over 1300 consecutive clays.

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 Post subject: Re: Adjustable choke on ted williams gun
PostPosted: Wed Feb 03, 2010 11:18 am 
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I had a poly choke that on a gun I bought used. Every now and then you ghave to clean the internals. Plastic wad residues will jam the petals inside the barrel. Unscrew the barrel and take a small blade like an Exacto knife and remove the residues from between the petals.


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 Post subject: Re: Adjustable choke on ted williams gun
PostPosted: Wed Feb 03, 2010 8:12 pm 
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I think you mean unscrew the choke cover.

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 Post subject: Re: Adjustable choke on ted williams gun
PostPosted: Sat Mar 06, 2010 10:10 am 
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Cool. Thanks for the replies guys. This gun shoots awesome and smooth, perfect for clay shooting and super reliable so far.


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 Post subject: Re: Adjustable choke on ted williams gun
PostPosted: Sat Mar 06, 2010 11:01 am 
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I forgot to address your comment about the ic choke shooting tight. The ic choke setting should make about a 25" size pattern at 20 yds; discounting flyers.

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