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 Post subject: Need 20 gauge Red Dot recipe.
PostPosted: Tue Jun 22, 2010 4:38 pm 
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Just got my new Mec Sizemaster in 12 gauge, been using a Lee Load-All. Quite a difference between the 2 machines to say the least. I'll get it up and running soon, making all the 12 gauge trap loads we need. I kept the Lee and got the 20 gauge conversion kit for it, 20 bucks what the heck. We don't use a lot of 20s but I'd like to load my own and the Lee will be good enough for that. Here's my questions. I've been using Red Dot since I started reloading last year and would like to continue using only Red Dot if I can. I'd like to see a 20 gauge target load with 7/8s oz. of #8 shot at about 1150 fps. That should make a pretty mild yet effective target load. How many grains of Red Dot will I need to achieve this result? Can I use Red Dot in the 20 gauge at all? I could not find this info in my Lyman book, everything but Red Dot. Any help?
With 12 grand kids I'll be doing my best to bring some of the next generation into the shooting sports. BB guns, 22s and a 20 gauge or two. That should do it.



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 Post subject: Re: Need 20 gauge Red Dot recipe.
PostPosted: Tue Jun 22, 2010 4:49 pm 
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There used to be load data utilizing Red Dot in one brand of hulls but advances in pressure equipment showed that the pressure peaks were well past the SAAMI maximums at times. That effectively stopped anyone from publishing that data in future recipes. I would recommend Unique or Herco for the 20 ga as it is much better suited for that purpose as well as being appropriate for any heavy 12 ga loads you may need. Universal Clays and 20/28 are two others that I can recommend with the former being very similar to Unique in types of application.
In any event, do not use Red Dot as it places undue stress on the gun and components.


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 Post subject: Re: Need 20 gauge Red Dot recipe.
PostPosted: Tue Jun 22, 2010 5:12 pm 
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abbyridge wrote:
Can I use Red Dot in the 20 gauge at all?


No, forget it.

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 Post subject: Re: Need 20 gauge Red Dot recipe.
PostPosted: Tue Jun 22, 2010 5:21 pm 
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Did you find published loads for Red Dot in a 20 gauge in Lyman's 5th edition or Alliants website reloaders guide? You didn't. That should have told you it's not a good idea.


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 Post subject: Re: Need 20 gauge Red Dot recipe.
PostPosted: Tue Jun 22, 2010 7:21 pm 
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Thanks for the quick replys! Looks like I'll buy some different powder for the 20 gauge loads.

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 Post subject: Re: Need 20 gauge Red Dot recipe.
PostPosted: Tue Jun 22, 2010 7:41 pm 
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I use International Clays in my 20 gauge reloads, its very clean and meters well. As mentioned, Red Dot is much to fast for the 20 gauge. Herco is great for 1 oz loads, Unique will work well for target loads - it works in every gauge if you want to stock only one powder.

Some people could use a real lesson in courteousy though...

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 Post subject: Re: Need 20 gauge Red Dot recipe.
PostPosted: Fri Jun 25, 2010 6:12 am 
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Here's a 3/4 oz. load using promo, although one could use Red dot also:
viewtopic.php?f=13&t=71171&p=543594#p543594

IIRC, Case had a similar load pressure tested, but used a hotter winchester primer, and got near SAAMI max. pressures, therefore I'd stick to Rem. primers.




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