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 Post subject: value of used Remington 870 wingmaster 12ga 2 3/4
PostPosted: Sat Aug 07, 2010 9:59 pm 
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value of used Remington 870 wingmaster 12ga 2 3/4

I stopped by today at one of the gun stores and there it was Remington Wingmaster 870 12ga 2 3/4. Used on sale for $225 (discounted from $270).

Overall it looked really nice. Nice stock with no major wear or tear. Refinish looked used but over all fine (It would be fun project improving the look of the refinish). Some wear on the tube-it has been used after all.

This would be my first shotgun. I would like to use it for some clay shooting (I know that this is not the best shotgun for this purpose but I would like to find out if I will like it before spending a lot of money on something like this).

What do you think is a value of a used but not abused 870? What to look for while buying a used shotgun ( I only own one rifle that I bought new). Would I be able to shot slugs as well or just the "bb's"?

Thank you all for your help.




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 Post subject: Re: value of used Remington 870 wingmaster 12ga 2 3/4
PostPosted: Sat Aug 07, 2010 11:01 pm 
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Thats a great price if it is in working condition...
It is a great all around gun...
you can use it for anything... and it will last forever
I have a bunch of guns... up to a beautiful old bespoke English gun
a Wingmaster was my first... a gift from my uncle 45+ years ago
and I hit more targets & birds with it than anything else...

buy it... or tell me where I can buy it

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 Post subject: Re: value of used Remington 870 wingmaster 12ga 2 3/4
PostPosted: Sun Aug 08, 2010 8:02 am 
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btw, this store allows test shooting before purchase....

Is there anything particular that I should be watching for while buying a used gun?


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 Post subject: Re: value of used Remington 870 wingmaster 12ga 2 3/4
PostPosted: Sun Aug 08, 2010 8:20 am 
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I would have picked it up and been clean it instead of typing about it. If you can test it before you buy that is a plus and you'll know before hand if it has any problems. Don't use any cheap winchester promo shells as they have a tendency to cause FTE I have found


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 Post subject: Re: value of used Remington 870 wingmaster 12ga 2 3/4
PostPosted: Sun Aug 08, 2010 8:29 am 
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Unfortunately, with my busy schedule I wont be ble to pick it up till next Saturday...(I'm keeping my fingers crossed that it won't sell by then).


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PostPosted: Sun Aug 08, 2010 9:45 am 
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Make a phone call and a promise. Good price on a great gun, if a corn shucker is desired. None better.


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 Post subject: Re: value of used Remington 870 wingmaster 12ga 2 3/4
PostPosted: Sun Aug 08, 2010 11:39 am 
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I have 3 Wingmasters, and that is a good price. I paid less for the two I bought (one was my dad's) but they were in need of reblueing and the stocks were old and worn. What is the barrel choked for? If it's full you may want to budget yourself for a replacement barrel that accepts tubes. I have a Wingmaster that is choked full and I have broken plenty of clay birds with it and knocked ducks down, but I like the option of changing tubes for hunting and trap shooting. But all in all, I would definitely buy that gun.

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 Post subject: Re: value of used Remington 870 wingmaster 12ga 2 3/4
PostPosted: Sun Aug 08, 2010 11:49 am 
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Older Wingmasters are very dependable shotguns and should make a good first gun for you. As to the price, in my area a refinished 2 3/4" Wingmaster would sell in the $150 range.

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 Post subject: Re: value of used Remington 870 wingmaster 12ga 2 3/4
PostPosted: Sun Aug 08, 2010 11:52 am 
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Also, yes, you can shoot slugs through that gun. Federal truball is the way to go. They do VERY well out of my wingmaster.

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 Post subject: Re: value of used Remington 870 wingmaster 12ga 2 3/4
PostPosted: Sun Aug 08, 2010 4:27 pm 
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Find a comparable Wingmaster on Gunbroker.com and check out the price. Add in the shipping and I doubt you will find one in that price range. If you can test shoot it that is even better. For someone getting into shotgunning on a budget you will have difficulty beating a Wingmaster. It is a versatile gun and once you get used to shooting a pump you can be deadly in any of the Clays games as well as hunting.


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 Post subject: Re: value of used Remington 870 wingmaster 12ga 2 3/4
PostPosted: Sun Aug 08, 2010 5:00 pm 
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What choke does it have?

If it is fixed full, it might not be a great choice for clay sports.


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PostPosted: Sun Aug 08, 2010 5:25 pm 
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NH,
It would be killer on 26yd Trap.


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 Post subject: Re: value of used Remington 870 wingmaster 12ga 2 3/4
PostPosted: Sun Aug 08, 2010 6:22 pm 
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Is it possible that it does not have any choke? I don't remember seeing one. Is it bad is there is no choke?

Thank you all for your advice, at this point I can't wait for the next weekend.


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 Post subject: Re: value of used Remington 870 wingmaster 12ga 2 3/4
PostPosted: Sun Aug 08, 2010 6:34 pm 
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NHrural wrote:
What choke does it have?

If it is fixed full, it might not be a great choice for clay sports.


Spreader loads do a pretty good job of opening up patterns on full choked guns.


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 Post subject: Re: value of used Remington 870 wingmaster 12ga 2 3/4
PostPosted: Sun Aug 08, 2010 6:37 pm 
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mxaexm wrote:
Is it possible that it does not have any choke? I don't remember seeing one. Is it bad is there is no choke?

Thank you all for your advice, at this point I can't wait for the next weekend.


If it is a fixed choke rather than removable one, you won't be able to see a choke. The choke constriction is built into the barrel. Sometimes there is no constriction built into the barrel and it is a cylinder bore which produces a open pattern.


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 Post subject: Re: value of used Remington 870 wingmaster 12ga 2 3/4
PostPosted: Sun Aug 08, 2010 7:18 pm 
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NO!!! Instead go to Wal Mart with $300 and buy the 870 Remington Express Magnum with laminated stocks. The gun will be brand new, have choke tubes, will shoot steel shot and handle three inch shells.

A beginner with exactly one shotgun should buy a brand new Express 870. It will be brand new, with a warranty, he can't get screwed on the price or condition, and no matter what he wants to do with it the gun will be able to adapt to it.

The days of lead shot are numbered. Not only are the do gooders slowly coming after lead, the final dagger will be the day that the ammo companies can supply a cheaper "promo load" in steel than with lead shot.

After a young man has at least one choke tubed 3" chambered repeating shotgun that can handle steel shot to take care of whatever he actually needs, then he should be free to chase his wants. :wink:


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 Post subject: Re: value of used Remington 870 wingmaster 12ga 2 3/4
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Yeah get an 870 express, you might be the lucky guy that gets one that works. Lead shot will be around for at least the next decade, longer for us out law types. By the time lead is passe you will have moved on to other guns.


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 Post subject: Re: value of used Remington 870 wingmaster 12ga 2 3/4
PostPosted: Sun Aug 08, 2010 8:41 pm 
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can someone explain to me the difference between shooting the lead vs steel shots? Will the old Wingmaster shoot only the leadshots?


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 Post subject: Re: value of used Remington 870 wingmaster 12ga 2 3/4
PostPosted: Sun Aug 08, 2010 9:20 pm 
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Max,
Chances are the gun you are looking at will have a modified choke it could be full but likley a mod. There will be a stamp on the barrel that will identify. Steel shot isn't really good for older guns. Although it is reported that if the gun is open choked, Improved cylander or modified, it can be done safely. If you want to shoot steel shot I would suggest a gun made specifically for it. Your cost per shot will go up a bunch.


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 Post subject: Re: value of used Remington 870 wingmaster 12ga 2 3/4
PostPosted: Sun Aug 08, 2010 9:47 pm 
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As long as the lead will be around for some time now, I should be fine. Once I will buy it, I'm planning on keeping it for a life time (I'm 26 years now).

My goal is to find how much I like shotguns and then upgrade within a few years-surely buying guns/shotguns is addictive.

If Remington 870 Wingmaster will allow me to shoot some clays (really on the recreational level) and some slugs (seldom) then I better keep my fingers crossed that it won't sell by next Saturday.




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