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 Post subject: 410 OR 20 GAUGE FOR SQUIRREL & RABBIT?
PostPosted: Wed Aug 11, 2010 2:26 pm 
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IM LOOKIN AT A 410 MOSSBERG 500 PUMP. GOOD DECISION FOR SMALL GAME? ANY SUGGESTIONS? I HAVE SMALL RIFLES BUT WANT TO USE A SMALL GAUGE FOR THIS YEAR. ANY INFO IS MUCH APPRECIATED. THANKS




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 Post subject: Re: 410 OR 20 GAUGE FOR SQUIRREL & RABBIT?
PostPosted: Wed Aug 11, 2010 7:41 pm 
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 Post subject: Re: 410 OR 20 GAUGE FOR SQUIRREL & RABBIT?
PostPosted: Thu Aug 12, 2010 8:10 am 
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For years I used 12 gauges for squirrels and rabbits with good results, but now like shooting my 20 gauge 11-87. However, my brother-in-law swore by his Stevens .410 bolt action.


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 Post subject: Re: 410 OR 20 GAUGE FOR SQUIRREL & RABBIT?
PostPosted: Thu Aug 12, 2010 9:05 am 
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I have both 410 and 20ga. I've used both on squills and wabbits.
With the 410, ya gotta pay close attention to distances.
Shells are cheaper and the choices are much better for a 20, where 410s will cost ya the price of 2 boxes of 20s.

I'll keep hunting with a 410 if I ain't real serious. For serious work the 20 comes out. For really serious work, I break out one of my 12s.

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 Post subject: Re: 410 OR 20 GAUGE FOR SQUIRREL & RABBIT?
PostPosted: Fri Sep 10, 2010 12:55 pm 
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I would go with the 20.

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 Post subject: Re: 410 OR 20 GAUGE FOR SQUIRREL & RABBIT?
PostPosted: Fri Sep 10, 2010 7:53 pm 
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The 20 ga. will be more versatile & more effective. The standard .410 3" load was 3/4 oz. before the one piece plastic wad. They reduced it to 11/16 oz. to get it in the hull with a one piece plastic wad. The 20 ga. has a standard 7/8 oz. load & can be handloaded with 3/4 oz. or less. On the other hand, hunting small game with a .410 can be a lot of fun. I have a friend that has a pack of rabbit beagles. He likes using a .410. He keeps telling me he can put a whole box of shells in one pocket.


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 Post subject: Re: 410 OR 20 GAUGE FOR SQUIRREL & RABBIT?
PostPosted: Sun Sep 12, 2010 1:18 pm 
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I go with a 20 or a 12.


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 Post subject: Re: 410 OR 20 GAUGE FOR SQUIRREL & RABBIT?
PostPosted: Wed Sep 15, 2010 10:19 pm 
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 Post subject: Re: 410 OR 20 GAUGE FOR SQUIRREL & RABBIT?
PostPosted: Fri Sep 17, 2010 10:21 am 
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I'm not a good enough shot to use a 410 :roll:

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 Post subject: Re: 410 OR 20 GAUGE FOR SQUIRREL & RABBIT?
PostPosted: Sat Sep 18, 2010 10:30 pm 
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hmm.. all i can say is that 20 gauge is gonna give you all the range you need in the woods, but they can be wayy to much firepower when you get close to em. just today i shot one so bad my dad and i couldnt even eat it swear to god. in this case, a .410 wouldve probibly been great, so the rule is you always will bring the wrong gun :D


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 Post subject: Re: 410 OR 20 GAUGE FOR SQUIRREL & RABBIT?
PostPosted: Tue Oct 12, 2010 9:02 pm 
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I have both. I've used both. I prefer the .410.

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 Post subject: Re: 410 OR 20 GAUGE FOR SQUIRREL & RABBIT?
PostPosted: Thu Oct 14, 2010 5:14 pm 
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I suppose it would depend on what you have already, but between the two, I'd go with the 20-gauge.

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 Post subject: Re: 410 OR 20 GAUGE FOR SQUIRREL & RABBIT?
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Jack O'Connor, the shotgun guru of the 1950s, stated that the 20 gauge would be his for the uplands. I left the 410 in my teens and went to the 12 gauge. In my 60s, I went to the 20 gauge for everything but deer and bear. My BIL has killed many a buck with his 20 gauge double.

My favorite, and I have many favorites, for uplands, small game, is the Franchi 48 in 20 gauge. It has a bit of recoil but when you are shooting at game, you never notice the kick. After a day afield, you will appreciate how light it is.

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 Post subject: Re: 410 OR 20 GAUGE FOR SQUIRREL & RABBIT?
PostPosted: Sat Oct 16, 2010 11:51 pm 
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Personally I like the 410 for a bunny gun over the 20 gauge. For squirrels it's a toss up, using the 410 with 2 1\2" shells you don't have as much shot to pick out, but you give up range. I'm a bit rusty though shooting shotguns but I went out a few days ago and killed 4 squirrels in 5 shots. Reason being the last one I shot was running through brush at about 25 yards and I mis-led it a bit hitting him only in the rear end, slowing him down, the next shot finished him. They were all shot with reloads I've had loaded for about 15 years.


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 Post subject: Re: 410 OR 20 GAUGE FOR SQUIRREL & RABBIT?
PostPosted: Sun Oct 17, 2010 7:46 pm 
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I figured on using a Mossberg 500 in .410 for squirrel this year, untill I patterned it last week.
It wears a 24" full choke barrel, but patterns were truly dismal with anything bigger than #6's at anything further than 20-25yds.
The 3" #4's I wanted to use were a joke, with like 3 or 4 pellets within the center 1' circle at 20yds.
Since I'll be shooting at a single squirrel, not a whole flock of them, I'll be leaving this .410 at home.

Just my $.02
Cheers, YV


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 Post subject: Re: 410 OR 20 GAUGE FOR SQUIRREL & RABBIT?
PostPosted: Sun Oct 17, 2010 9:27 pm 
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I went to a Mossy .410 for rabbit hunting with beagles years ago. After running the lil hounds for 30 years and killing a couple truck loads of rabbits, I decided to be more sporting. The lil pop-gun is waaay lighter to pack around all day and I don't really care if I kill another rabbit. Less I kill the more there are for the pack to chase and that's what I really dig the most. My buddies insist I carry a gun and the hounds get all fired up when they see a gun, so I comply with the least gun I can get away with. I'm considering getting one of those .410 pistols. LOL

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 Post subject: Re: 410 OR 20 GAUGE FOR SQUIRREL & RABBIT?
PostPosted: Fri Oct 29, 2010 12:36 am 
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yovinny wrote:
I figured on using a Mossberg 500 in .410 for squirrel this year, untill I patterned it last week.
It wears a 24" full choke barrel, but patterns were truly dismal with anything bigger than #6's at anything further than 20-25yds.
The 3" #4's I wanted to use were a joke, with like 3 or 4 pellets within the center 1' circle at 20yds.
Since I'll be shooting at a single squirrel, not a whole flock of them, I'll be leaving this .410 at home.

Just my $.02
Cheers, YV


Sorry to hear about that mossberg, I keep looking at them as I am realy enjoying using the .410 for squirrel and rabbit and would like a repeater.

Mind you thats about the usable range on a .410 due to the payload tapering off. Personaly I use 2 1/2" with 1/2 ounce of #6 shot. The lighter load of #6 moves faster and has greater pellet count. I get pass through on the squirrels. I find if I'm even remotely off target I can miss with the whole pattern very easily. By the way I have a rossi with a modified choke. I'm getting about the same pattern density as a 12 in IC, just a much smaller pattern.


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 Post subject: Re: 410 OR 20 GAUGE FOR SQUIRREL & RABBIT?
PostPosted: Mon Dec 20, 2010 10:32 am 
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I know this is an old thread, but, I will pitch in anyway.

The 20 guage is going to be much more versatile. 20 gauge ammo is somewhat less ecpensive than 410 ammo. The 20 guage will give better patterns(concentricity-center to fringe ratio-fullness) than the 410, and do it at longer ranges.

Even the very least expensive 20 gauge repeaters(and some single shot) have choke tubes. You can match the choke to the shot size, terrain, conditions, game.

A one ounce 20 ga load of 4 shot,(1200 fps) proper choke for range, will cleanly take squirrels and rabbits, penetrate(pass through) better than a slower 410 load of 4(1135 fps) leaving, usually, no shot in meat.

In my part of the world, shotguns were rarely used for squirrel and rabbit. Now, population densities are making the shotgun the only choice for many hunters, for safety reasons. Many landowners will not allow rifles on their property, even if they give peremission for deer hunting. The best shotgun squirrel hunter I ever knew used a Winchester 37 break open, single shot, 410, full choke. That gun did not make him a great hunter, but, because he was a great hunter he could use that gun. A 410 plus true discipline, understanding with/of the gun and load, understanding and familiarity of the terrain you will hunt, equals meat on the table.

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 Post subject: Re: 410 OR 20 GAUGE FOR SQUIRREL & RABBIT?
PostPosted: Fri Dec 31, 2010 10:18 pm 
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I would go with the 20 ga. but there is nothing wrong with the old 400 & 10.( what my grandad calls it) :D




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