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 Post subject: Excel 16 gauge
PostPosted: Sun Oct 31, 2010 8:14 pm 
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I have an EXCEL 16 Gauge with the serial number 27507x, I would like know who made it and what year it was made :?: Thanks

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 Post subject: Re: Excel 16 gauge
PostPosted: Sun Oct 31, 2010 9:18 pm 
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Excel Arms imported Laurona O/U's and Ugartechia SxS's from Spain.

Separate the barrels from the frame and look at the markings stamped on the underside of the barrels (barrel flats) and the watertable of the frame. Laurona guns will be stamped with the letters F.M. or Y.Z. Ugartechia guns are stamped with a helmet over a heraldic shield.



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 Post subject: Re: Excel 16 gauge
PostPosted: Sun Oct 31, 2010 11:51 pm 
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The answer to your question depends on more than the serial number. A number of makers over the years have used the name EXCEL. If the gun is a single shot single barrel it could be a "Trade Brand Name" shotgun. A "Trade Brand Name" shotgun is one that was made by a major maker (and before 1940) for and was sold by a wholesaler or retailer who chose the name to go on the gun. I have listings for three makers of such shotguns, Crescent Fire Arms Company (1892 to 1931) and Crescent-Davis Arms Company (1932 to 1938) both of Norwich,CT and Iver Johnson Arms & Cycle Works of Fitchberg.MA (1874 to 1992) for and was sold by Montgomery Ward Company of zChicago.IL. There have been other makers who made guns with the same name after 1945 but for whom I have no information. Are there any other markings on the gun other than just the name Excel? Look both on the top and bottom of the barrel and if it is a single barrel, also look on the barrel lug. And where is the serial number stamped? A photo would be of great help.


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 Post subject: Re: Excel 16 gauge
PostPosted: Mon Nov 01, 2010 10:02 am 
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On top of the barrel it says 16 gauge choke bore barrel and lug forged in one!

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 Post subject: Re: Excel 16 gauge
PostPosted: Mon Nov 01, 2010 10:04 am 
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Hmmmm, Ned may be right. I overlooked the possibility of an older "Trade Brand Name" gun.

In addition to the U.S. makers that Ned has mentioned, a number of Belgian made "Trade Brand Name" guns were imported into the States during the early 20th century. Those guns would have Belgian proof marks and ELG stamped on them. If the gun was imported by Excel in Gardner, MA; it should have Spanish proof marks and the country of origin will be stamped on the barrel(s).



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 Post subject: Re: Excel 16 gauge
PostPosted: Mon Nov 01, 2010 1:47 pm 
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BARREL & LUG FORGED INTO ONE was a mark used by both Iver Johnson Arms & Cycle Works and Stevens Arm & Tool Company (after 1915). Choke bored was bored was used by Stevens. So you have a "Trade Brand Name" shotgun made by the Stevens Arms & Tool Company some time after 1915. The gun was an inexpensive utility grade shotgun even when new and hasn't appreciated that much since. Current value will depend on the guns condition, the amount of original finish remaining on the metal and wood as well as the mechanical condition. A gun such as this one when in prime condition might bring as much as $75 while a rusty rotten incomplete piece of junk fit only for a tomato stake might bring $10 for parts salvage.


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 Post subject: Re: Excel 16 gauge
PostPosted: Mon Nov 01, 2010 8:59 pm 
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ok thanks for the info!

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 Post subject: Re: Excel 16 gauge
PostPosted: Mon Nov 01, 2010 10:30 pm 
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You are welcome and thanks is accepted however I normally charge $3.00 for information about an old gun ($4.00 for correct information). Please place a $3.00 bill in the small slot on your computer and hit the send key. Don't use a $5.00 bill as my computer is not programed to make change.


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