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 Post subject: Remington 1100 date of birth
PostPosted: Sun Jan 30, 2011 12:38 am 
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Hi everyone, I usually hang out on the CZ forum but I had to ask a question.

I have owned many remington rifles and 2 reimington shotguns.

The shotguns are an 870 that I inherited from my granddad and restored to factory new condition and a premeir 1187(bought first year they came out) but have never owned an 1100.

Until today that is.

My mother has shot an 1100 since the mid 60's when they first came out(bought for 45 buck from a used car dealer) and I have shot it in the past but I have always wanted my own.
Well today I got one. Modified barrel 26" long over all the gun is in 95% condition, bluing perfect and original end to end. The gun shows no wear at the muzzle from having been fired allot(no blueing missing or faded) not a mark on the original wood.

Question- how to find out the manufacturing date. The serial number 52####v indicates, if i have read right, that the gun was made in 1979 based on the 'v' in the serial number.
Any help would be appreceiated. Thanks. Also any sources for a factory rem choked barrel at a reasonable price?




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 Post subject: Re: Remington 1100 date of birth
PostPosted: Sun Jan 30, 2011 12:47 am 
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Call Remington they will date it in seconds right over the phone. Their customer care has been outstanding for me.


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 Post subject: Re: Remington 1100 date of birth
PostPosted: Sun Jan 30, 2011 6:53 am 
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That 1979 is a 'v' barrel code, not serial number. "V" suffix indicates 12 gauge 2-3/4" gun. No prefix means manufactured prior to 1968. Solid first generation. I don't think I ever saw a 26" modified tube back then, but it has been 47 years. Are you sure it still mikes modified? What's the barrel code? Rough estimate, would be 1968 based on count. And no matter what Remington says, they did start numbering them in the low four digits. I had one, and have a five digit, and Remington says it doesn't exist.

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 Post subject: Re: Remington 1100 date of birth
PostPosted: Sun Jan 30, 2011 12:50 pm 
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kljshotgun wrote:
Hi everyone, I usually hang out on the CZ forum but I had to ask a question.

I have owned many remington rifles and 2 reimington shotguns.

The shotguns are an 870 that I inherited from my granddad and restored to factory new condition and a premeir 1187(bought first year they came out) but have never owned an 1100.

Until today that is.

My mother has shot an 1100 since the mid 60's when they first came out(bought for 45 buck from a used car dealer) and I have shot it in the past but I have always wanted my own.
Well today I got one. Modified barrel 26" long over all the gun is in 95% condition, bluing perfect and original end to end. The gun shows no wear at the muzzle from having been fired allot(no blueing missing or faded) not a mark on the original wood.

Question- how to find out the manufacturing date. The serial number 52####v indicates, if i have read right, that the gun was made in 1979 based on the 'v' in the serial number.
Any help would be appreceiated. Thanks. Also any sources for a factory rem choked barrel at a reasonable price?






congrats on your find !!!

i grew up with an old remington 1100 16ga, that was my granfathers... its still in the familey.
i've been searching for a 20ga, 1100

enjoy your shotgun :)


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 Post subject: Re: Remington 1100 date of birth
PostPosted: Sun Jan 30, 2011 3:19 pm 
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Define "reasonable" price. I have brand new Remington 26" Target/Light Contour with one extended Sporting IC tube I will be happy to sell you for $210, delivered. I don't think you will find anything close for less than $245.

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 Post subject: Re: Remington 1100 date of birth
PostPosted: Sun Jan 30, 2011 4:59 pm 
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That 1979 is a 'v' barrel code, not serial number. "V" suffix indicates 12 gauge 2-3/4" gun. No prefix means manufactured prior to 1968. Solid first generation. I don't think I ever saw a 26" modified tube back then, but it has been 47 years. Are you sure it still mikes modified? What's the barrel code? Rough estimate, would be 1968 based on count. And no matter what Remington says, they did start numbering them in the low four digits. I had one, and have a five digit, and Remington says it doesn't exist.


Measures 26 inches and it is a factory barrel stamped modified and mikes at modified with vented rib.

As far as 'reasonable price' then 250 bucks is in the ball park(and yes I am one of those that will dicker over price to save money thats why my 30ft travel trailer cost 20g's less then msrp and my truck 23g's less then sticker) for a barrel. I have found one this morning at cabelas for 249 which will come home come pay day.

Other then replacing the barrel for a rem choke barrel, I will be putting on a decellerator pad to replace the factory black but plate and best of all I can do all the fitting of the pad(did on 2 custom mausers I built from frame up, stock and metel work).


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 Post subject: Re: Remington 1100 date of birth
PostPosted: Sun Jan 30, 2011 8:21 pm 
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Glad for you, but I would encourage you to double check and make sure it is the Light or Target Contour barrel. When I asked Cabela's and BassPro (Brownell's knew what they had) for the Remington part number back when I was looking for one, it turned out it was the standard contour barrel they had, so I had to go straight to Remington, and i had to wait a bit.
If you say it's a 26" Modified barrel, I believe you. I just didn't remember them back in the sixties that short.
If you can fit recoil pads well, you are one up on me. I spent 30 years making paper out of trees, and the wood is always looking to get even.

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 Post subject: Re: Remington 1100 date of birth
PostPosted: Sun Jan 30, 2011 9:44 pm 
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Virginian wrote:
Glad for you, but I would encourage you to double check and make sure it is the Light or Target Contour barrel. When I asked Cabela's and BassPro (Brownell's knew what they had) for the Remington part number back when I was looking for one, it turned out it was the standard contour barrel they had, so I had to go straight to Remington, and i had to wait a bit.
If you say it's a 26" Modified barrel, I believe you. I just didn't remember them back in the sixties that short.
If you can fit recoil pads well, you are one up on me. I spent 30 years making paper out of trees, and the wood is always looking to get even.


No problem on the barrel, Cabelas is about 5 miles south of where I live. That can be good or bad depending on the size of your bank account. It will allow me to get hands on the barrel before buying.

As for the recoil pad, I got a jig from midway. The jig and a table top sander makes the work take about 10 minutes to fit a pad. Mount the pad to the gun, trace the outline of the stock onto the underside of the pad, mount pad to the jig, adjust jig for toe angle.
Sand off pad material for the toe angle then adjust jig to 90 degrees and sand the sides and top of pad. Make sure you don't go overboard on sanding and check fit to stock. Finish sanding pad with 300 grit wet/dry paper and armour all untill smooth finish then install the finished pad. Ten minutes of your time or 85 bucks of a gunsmith's time.

The jig cost 42 bucks and with the number of guns in my collection it pays for itself with 3 rifles.


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 Post subject: Re: Remington 1100 date of birth
PostPosted: Sun Jan 30, 2011 10:15 pm 
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:P :P Ten Minutes? I saw Larry Potterfield do it in 30 seconds. :P :P

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 Post subject: Re: Remington 1100 date of birth
PostPosted: Sun Jan 30, 2011 10:37 pm 
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Stroker wrote:
:P :P Ten Minutes? I saw Larry Potterfield do it in 30 seconds. :P :P

......Thanks for your business......


Hey give me a break I'm slow when working on my guns. If I screw up I'm out the money to fix it, if a gunsmith screws up I only lose time.

Really though and actually it does take a little longer, but with the propper tools and jigs anyone can work on their guns or take the challenge to build their own if they stay with in certain safety rules.

My 2 custom mausers was built off old turkish and argentine mauser actions. With the help of midway in getting the propper parts and tools I built the guns as a matched pair for my mother and myself. With studying books and under the eye of a helpful gunsmith(he checked all my work as I went) I was able to do this.

This 1100 is the next project it just happens to only need the pad for now. I'll find out what else it needs such as a new gas o-ring due to age. The barrel I want is to make the gun more versital for my hunting such as turkey or dove.


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PostPosted: Sun Jan 30, 2011 11:04 pm 
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Sounds like a good project, of course you know I was only kidding. {hs#


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 Post subject: Re: Remington 1100 date of birth
PostPosted: Mon Jan 31, 2011 11:52 am 
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I called Remington today and asked for birthdays of all of my Remington Arms.

They were happy to oblige, and provided year of mfg. for all, including my Model 14 from 1921. Plus, they are sending out owner's manuals for all.

Probably not a big deal, but it was appreciated by me.

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 Post subject: Re: Remington 1100 date of birth
PostPosted: Mon Jan 31, 2011 12:31 pm 
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It is a big deal, customer service is huge. I have not purchased any new Remington gun products in a long time. Both 870 Wingmasters I have were made in the 70's and neither has ever failed me and both have had thousands of heavy dove loads ran through them as well as target loads. I am sure they will last the rest of my lifetime and be passed down. I have never been a big fan of Remington Rifles I am more of a Winchester Model 70 man in that category therefore I have not ever had to deal with Remington repairs or services.

I constantly hear how their new products are declining from what they used to be but for whats its worth their customer service has always been above and beyond for me. About a year or two ago I had misplaced the magazine plug from Wingmaster. I called customer service to purchase a new one. The lady I spoke with asked the serial number of the gun in question and I gave it to her as well as my name. She pulled me up on the computer and still had my information from where I had sent in the warranty registration card back in the 70's and was impressed that I was the original owner of the Wingmaster. She asked if had been satisfied with the shotgun and I replied that it had never let me down, she was very polite and so was I. She thanked me for being a Remington owner and took my order for the plug which I paid for with my credit card. When my order came, included with my plug was a new magazine spring, a large can of aerosol Remoil spray, a silicon shotgun sock with the Remington logo and a Remington Country Camo hat. There was a handwritten note by the lady I had dealt with that said "Thanks for owning a Remington, we are glad it has served you well for over 30 years...included at no charge are a few tokens of our appreciation please visit our website and check out our full inventory."

I gotta tell ya, I was so touched I almost welled up. I know there is no way they do that with everyone and maybe I just caught that lady on a good day but it meant a lot to me at the time.


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 Post subject: Re: Remington 1100 date of birth
PostPosted: Mon Jan 31, 2011 1:18 pm 
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Well just called Remington to find out the manufacture date and order some parts for the gun and some other backup parts.

The gun was made in 1970. Well for a 40 year old gun it still looks like a kid.


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Don't get me wrong, I love Remingtons, especially 1100s and Wingmasters. And I think their customer service has been very good for 40+ years. When I was selling guns, they were the best by far. But, I am telling you the accuracy of the telephone date of manufacture service is shot full of holes. Beginning in 1968, Remington 1100 serial numbers started carrying the letter 'L' prefix. This is not secret info, it's been around for years.
As a matter of interest, I have never seen a letter from Remington, on letterhead stationary, that was wrong on the date, except where they told me they had no records of 4 or 5 digit serial numbered 1100s having been sold to the general public. They wanted me to send them my gun to verify it. A picture wasn't good enough. That was several years ago now. But I don't need to send them the gun. I have it right in front of me, and I know when i bought it.

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True records can be confusing but the gun is still in the 40 year range.

The most important thing is condition and if it goes bang when I pull the trigger.

I won't be able to check the latter for a while due to the bad weather and 40mph winds.


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Virginian wrote:
That 1979 is a 'v' barrel code, not serial number. "V" suffix indicates 12 gauge 2-3/4" gun. No prefix means manufactured prior to 1968. Solid first generation. I don't think I ever saw a 26" modified tube back then, but it has been 47 years. Are you sure it still mikes modified? What's the barrel code? Rough estimate, would be 1968 based on count. And no matter what Remington says, they did start numbering them in the low four digits. I had one, and have a five digit, and Remington says it doesn't exist.


Hi Virginian,
I just located another 12ga Remington 1100 with L prefix then 00 and then 4 low digits for the serial number . Remington also told me today that mine did not exist in their records either . The only 2 things I find different or kinda out of the ordinary run of the mill 1100 is it has the full choke vent ribbed 28 inch barrel instead of usual 30 inch full and there is no red color ring on the cross bolt safety button.
Have you discovered any other info about these L prefix low serial numbered guns ?
Thanks for your time and trouble.


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When I bought my 1963 1100 I got it with the 28" Full vent rib. They were no where near as popular as the 30", but they were a standard item; just took some calling around to find one in the pre information age. Still have the gun, and barrel, but now the gun sports a 28" Target Contour. So much for fit issues with "older" 1100s and new parts.
Up until the coming of the second generation checkering and rollmarking patterns in 1979, the only differences in the over 2 million guns made that I am aware of (I didn't see them all !) were the L, M, and N serial number prefixes, the change to elastomer 'O' rings from metal 'V' rings around 1966, and two different iterations of fore end supports. I don't remember when they started fooling around with different materials for the buffers and action spring followers. The lack of the red band on the safety is either due to it just getting missed in production, or someone using a solvent that removed it. I had a new 870 with a red dot once - that's it.
I have to retract my statement about the accuracy of Remington factory letters now as well though. There is STILL an 1100 Ducks Unlimited model on GunBroker, with a Remington letter saying it was one of the "Dinner" guns. It isn't. It is the commercial version. Somebody may make out, and somebody may get taken thanks to that - but the starting price has dropped so maybe folks are smarter than I think.

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Virginian wrote:
When I bought my 1963 1100 I got it with the 28" Full vent rib. They were no where near as popular as the 30", but they were a standard item; just took some calling around to find one in the pre information age. Still have the gun, and barrel, but now the gun sports a 28" Target Contour. So much for fit issues with "older" 1100s and new parts.
Up until the coming of the second generation checkering and rollmarking patterns in 1979, the only differences in the over 2 million guns made that I am aware of (I didn't see them all !) were the L, M, and N serial number prefixes, the change to elastomer 'O' rings from metal 'V' rings around 1966, and two different iterations of fore end supports. I don't remember when they started fooling around with different materials for the buffers and action spring followers. The lack of the red band on the safety is either due to it just getting missed in production, or someone using a solvent that removed it. I had a new 870 with a red dot once - that's it.
I have to retract my statement about the accuracy of Remington factory letters now as well though. There is STILL an 1100 Ducks Unlimited model on GunBroker, with a Remington letter saying it was one of the "Dinner" guns. It isn't. It is the commercial version. Somebody may make out, and somebody may get taken thanks to that - but the starting price has dropped so maybe folks are smarter than I think.



Thanks for the information .
When I talked to the fellar from Remington yesterday he said that with the actual 4 digit serial number on my gun that it was one of the first 300 ever made but he could not explain the L prefix at all .Would the 28 inch barrel that both our guns started out life with have anything to do with the L Prefix ? Lighter barrel ?
Is it your 1963 1100 that has the L Prefix and would mine with serial L00124?V ALSO BE A 1963?


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There were NO prefixes prior to 1968. Just numbers, and either a V or an M suffix. Then they started with L, then M, etc. Yours is almost surely a 1968.



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