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 Post subject: Nice Shot 12 Gauge Reloading Data
PostPosted: Fri Feb 25, 2011 7:06 pm 
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See: http://randywakeman.com/Nice_Shot_Reloading_Data_12_Gauge.htm.

That should make things more convenient-- and perhaps even save a few thousand e-mails.



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 Post subject: Re: Nice Shot 12 Gauge Reloading Data
PostPosted: Sat Feb 26, 2011 2:54 pm 
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Thanks again, Randy.....just one quick question: Do you know if the data for the 12 gauge 2 3/4" Winchester AA HS hull can be used safely with the older Winchester AA hull (non HS)?
Thanks in advance..................

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 Post subject: Re: Nice Shot 12 Gauge Reloading Data
PostPosted: Sat Feb 26, 2011 6:10 pm 
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Yes, Winchester has published that both the AA and the AA-HS 12 ga. hulls use the same data since 2003 or thereabouts.

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That's just 1-1/8 oz. of #5 Nice Shot @36 yards. The bull is a one inch circle: it patterns roughly the same as the better lead loads. For a general pheasant load, I'd use 1-1/4 oz. and a bit less choke.

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 Post subject: Re: Nice Shot 12 Gauge Reloading Data
PostPosted: Wed Nov 16, 2011 2:34 pm 
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Now if there was some data for 2 3/4" Win AA hulls not HS .As I have a lifetime supply on hand......Harold


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 Post subject: Re: Nice Shot 12 Gauge Reloading Data
PostPosted: Wed Nov 16, 2011 7:57 pm 
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All kinds of data-- just use 10,000 PSI or less loads, according to Hodgdon.

If you are shooting through a 3-1/2 in. chambered gun, then the full 11,500 PSI loads are fine, as 3-1/2 in. guns have a 14,000 PSI MAP.

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 Post subject: Re: Nice Shot 12 Gauge Reloading Data
PostPosted: Fri Nov 18, 2011 9:42 pm 
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Randy . I thought with the new wads and powders of today wad pressure was not a factor ? Any input on this would help . Also of the powders listed in these recipe which one is reliable below zero degrees . My load lost its pop when it got real cold last season and had to go back to steel . Thanks , Gregg .


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 Post subject: Re: Nice Shot 12 Gauge Reloading Data
PostPosted: Fri Nov 18, 2011 9:59 pm 
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If you're referring to the Precision Reloading Winchester HS hull data, I'd use Universal.

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 Post subject: Re: Nice Shot 12 Gauge Reloading Data
PostPosted: Fri Dec 16, 2011 5:32 pm 
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I have a question for you Randy

Are the loads listed in the chart the actual weights of the shot or the bushing used? Basically I want to know if everyone is loading Nice Shot by weight or volume

I loaded my test batch of Nice Shot with the scale and my second batch I manually added 10 #5's to each shell before I dumped through the 1oz bushing. I ordered a 1-1/16oz bushing but I think it will drop heavy


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 Post subject: Re: Nice Shot 12 Gauge Reloading Data
PostPosted: Thu Aug 16, 2012 5:09 pm 
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Randy-

Do you have any experience loading Nice Shot in older SxS's? I have a 1920 mfg Fox Sterlingworth 12ga in pretty good condition I would like to duck hunt with on the nice days.

Hoping for a 1oz to 1/16oz around 1150-1200fps but worried about pressure levels in the old girl. I see RST has them pre loaded, but I would like to roll my own here.

Thank you for your time and all the data you post here, you are an excellent asset to this forum and board!!

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 Post subject: Re: Nice Shot 12 Gauge Reloading Data
PostPosted: Thu Aug 16, 2012 5:12 pm 
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MMS-2 wrote:
I have a question for you Randy

Are the loads listed in the chart the actual weights of the shot or the bushing used?


It is always by weight.

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 Post subject: Re: Nice Shot 12 Gauge Reloading Data
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dnj21 wrote:
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Do you have any experience loading Nice Shot in older SxS's? I have a 1920 mfg Fox Sterlingworth 12ga in pretty good condition I would like to duck hunt with on the nice days.


No, Dave, I don't-- most of my older shotguns have humps and hold five shots. :oops: Dan from Nice Shot himself is a vintage doubles fan. The folks over at http://www.foxcollectors.com/ah_fox/content/ would know more.

SAAMI was founded in 1926 so a 1920 nitro proof standard in the U.S. didn't exist, it was up to the individual manufacturers. But nitro proofs were around long before that; since 1904 at the London Proof house to cite one example. Gun standards varied back then, see http://www.doublegunshop.com/gunther1.htm.

So, there are better folks to ask than me, but it is easy enough to load Nice Shot to duplicate lead loads. You just need a credible assessment of your individual guns condition and reputable guidance as to reasonable maximum average pressures.

My understanding is that 8000 PSI is a reasonable realm for fluid steel or other primitive steel barrels, but you should confirm that with someone far more familiar with old doubles than I am.

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 Post subject: Re: Nice Shot 12 Gauge Reloading Data
PostPosted: Tue Aug 21, 2012 6:30 pm 
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If you have a favorite load that you use, call Precision Reloading and talk to Trent Or Keith and see what the actual pressure is using Nice Shot as the payload.
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 Post subject: Nice Shot 12 Gauge Reloading Data
PostPosted: Sat Oct 27, 2012 9:26 am 
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Are any of these loads appropriate for use on Canadian geese? I think the goose shells that are loaded have a 1 3/8 oz payload


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 Post subject: Re: Nice Shot 12 Gauge Reloading Data
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There are 1-1/4, 1-3/8, and 1-1/2 oz. loads listed.

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 Post subject: Re: Nice Shot 12 Gauge Reloading Data
PostPosted: Mon Nov 19, 2012 10:54 pm 
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Sorry about the newbie goose hunting questions but are the 1 1/4 loads appropriate or should I stick with 1 3/8 loads?


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 Post subject: Re: Nice Shot 12 Gauge Reloading Data
PostPosted: Wed Nov 21, 2012 5:48 pm 
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Well here is what a 1-1/8 ounce load of #4 Nice Shot out of my 16ga can do!Image



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