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 Post subject: Crimp Sealers
PostPosted: Sun Mar 06, 2011 3:13 pm 
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used to waterproof or prevent buffer leakage.

To name a few; candle wax, and nail polish. What are some of the others you have used with success?

What about using primer sealer as a crimp sealer?


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 Post subject: Re: Crimp Sealers
PostPosted: Sun Mar 06, 2011 3:17 pm 
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If I had to, I would use hot wax, certainly not hot glue though.

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 Post subject: Re: Crimp Sealers
PostPosted: Sun Mar 06, 2011 3:29 pm 
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I have seen a few companys that sell a shotshell waterproofer that is applied to the crimps. Would cost something and would probably not do any more that the wax Curly recommended.

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 Post subject: Re: Crimp Sealers
PostPosted: Sun Mar 06, 2011 3:34 pm 
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Curly-Nohair wrote:
If I had to, I would use hot wax, certainly not hot glue though.


I have heard about using "shellac-like glue" but I don't like the sound of it. Anything that has the word glue in it, scares me a little.

I like the idea of just a drop of wax in the center. I am just trying to keep the buffer in the shell with a AA, 8-ponit crimp. The crimps look good and tight so maybe I just wait and see if i get any leakers?


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 Post subject: Re: Crimp Sealers
PostPosted: Sun Mar 06, 2011 4:42 pm 
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Wax is the answer,why don't you think Federal paper shells used them from the get go,because it
can't hurt anything.I have used it many times, as needed on paper shells that have had a small bit
of paper blown out after firing.


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 Post subject: Re: Crimp Sealers
PostPosted: Sun Mar 06, 2011 7:14 pm 
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Elmers glue. I put a dab on and smear it with a finger. Dries clear and keeps water out and buffer in.


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 Post subject: Re: Crimp Sealers
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The right stuff to use that doesn't raise pressures(I know because I actually preassure tested it) and seals properly is any good silicone sealer. Loctite has a clear silicone and a blue RTV Sealant, both work.

Make sure you use a sealant not an adhesive.

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 Post subject: Re: Crimp Sealers
PostPosted: Sun Mar 06, 2011 9:30 pm 
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It won't make it waterproof, but I have been known in the past to put a small tad (pinch) of dacron "fluff" over top of the shot before crimping. It does produce some howls at the skeet range!


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 Post subject: Re: Crimp Sealers
PostPosted: Sun Mar 06, 2011 9:49 pm 
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With the limited experience I have with sealing loads, I found that parafine wax, or candle wax, (same thing), works very well, is cheap, available at the grocery store, and easy to use. Does the intended job and has no unwanted side effects

I agree, any kind of glue should be avoided entirely.

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 Post subject: Re: Crimp Sealers
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Do you guys really think a sealer is even needed nowadays?

I dropped a target shell into a puddle during skeet league one time--it remained submerged for quite a while, as I make a habit of never stooping over while on station. After I finished and stepped off the whole crowd wanted me to shoot the shell.

As you've probably already guessed, it worked flawlessly.


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 Post subject: Re: Crimp Sealers
PostPosted: Sun Mar 06, 2011 10:19 pm 
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Shoot2reload wrote:
Do you guys really think a sealer is even needed nowadays?

I dropped a target shell into a puddle during skeet league one time--it remained submerged for quite a while, as I make a habit of never stooping over while on station. After I finished and stepped off the whole crowd wanted me to shoot the shell.

As you've probably already guessed, it worked flawlessly.


IF, and I say IF, I were loading Steel Shot, (which I don't), I would seal the shells as a practice. This is to keep any moisture from whatever source, getting in and rust clumping the shot. That's about the only time it could possibly be a benefit, as far as I'm concerned.

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 Post subject: Re: Crimp Sealers
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Luckily the Elmers is not much of an adhesive and it peels of easily. Once fired there is no residue of it left on the hull or in the barrel. I used to use the silicone based sealants and I noticed a buildup of gunk in the gas ports on some autos.


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 Post subject: Re: Crimp Sealers
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I've not bought any new shells since Hector was a pup but when I could get Sears/Federal light field loads for $1.85 a box, (still got a couple boxes of them) they all had a dab of paraffin melted over the top of the crimp. Yes, plastic hulls. I've tried it but you either need warmer wax or warmer hulls to get it to stick and seal well. Just dribbling it off a candle didn't work so well. I shoot Skeet on occasion with a fellow who shoots his old CFAA 410s until he can't hold the shot in with scotch tape and hot gun glue. And that in tubes and a K-80. He's so tight he wouldn't give a nickle to watch a chicken eat a bale of hay!

Wax is the way to go.

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 Post subject: Re: Crimp Sealers
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Shoot2reload wrote:
Do you guys really think a sealer is even needed nowadays?

I dropped a target shell into a puddle during skeet league one time--it remained submerged for quite a while, as I make a habit of never stooping over while on station. After I finished and stepped off the whole crowd wanted me to shoot the shell.

As you've probably already guessed, it worked flawlessly.


All depends,

Are you going to use the loaded gun to row the duck boat as well???? :lol:


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 Post subject: Re: Crimp Sealers
PostPosted: Mon Mar 07, 2011 8:36 am 
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Any open flame around my reloading bench makes me nervous. I have used clear nail polish in the past to seal crimps and it works like a champ. As a bonus, each bottle has an 'applicator brush'.


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 Post subject: Re: Crimp Sealers
PostPosted: Mon Mar 07, 2011 11:46 am 
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Shootshellz wrote:
Any open flame around my reloading bench makes me nervous. I have used clear nail polish in the past to seal crimps and it works like a champ. As a bonus, each bottle has an 'applicator brush'.

I like a nice ruby red color on my shells. Or maybe a bright pink to offset the Remmy green! :lol:


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 Post subject: Re: Crimp Sealers
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Who said anything about an open flame around a loading bench? I anneal rifle brass all the time with an open flame propane torch but it isn't anywhere near my loading bench. Just night before last I did a bunch of newly formed 280 Ross cases I made for a friend out in the garage. I'll bet I could have sealed shotgun shells out there too. I suppose there are those who wouldn't think about that?

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 Post subject: Re: Crimp Sealers
PostPosted: Mon Mar 07, 2011 1:34 pm 
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BPI has this stuff for $7.99 a bottle and it will seal about 500 crimps. Looks like clear nail polish to me. :wink:

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 Post subject: Re: Crimp Sealers
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For shotshells, George and Roy's is a primer sealer PERIOD. The snake oil salesmen of BPI strike again.

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 Post subject: Re: Crimp Sealers
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Bingo, dogchaser has it right again.

I was going to mention that yesterday but got waylaid and didn't get back to it. Seal primers and bullets on metallic rifle shells not crimps on shotgun shells. I wonder what old Geo. Herter would'a say about that?

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