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 Post subject: 1950's shotguns
PostPosted: Mon May 02, 2011 9:03 pm 
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First post, so I hope it's a good one: I've stumbled into a small collection of shotguns, well, actually, two so far. But I've bought a Remington Automaster 878 and a Mossberg Model 190 for $100.00 each, and per the serial number on the 878 and the model of the Mossberg, both were made in the '50's.

I'd like to start to consider a collection of good old reliable, American made 1950's shotguns -- since I was born in the '50's, I just thought it would be cool to dig out a small collection of shotguns from the '50's, especially if I can keep buying that at $100 a pop.

Can anyone direct me to a good source of information that will help me determine what American manufacturers were making shotguns in the 1950's?

I'd appreciate any help. Thanks.




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PostPosted: Mon May 02, 2011 9:16 pm 
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I'd have a huge collection of good old 50's shotguns if I could buy them each for $100 :)
You got lucky, maybe you will again. I know I have had some lucky finds over the years!
Maybe check out some of the gun price guides, perhaps in the library.

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PostPosted: Tue May 03, 2011 5:51 am 
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bigmacque wrote:
Can anyone direct me to a good source of information that will help me determine what American manufacturers were making shotguns in the 1950's?

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Find some copies of the Gun Digest annual from the 1950s. The catalog sections will have exactly the information you're seeking.

These books show up regularly on eBay.
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Make sure you include a Remington model 58 sportsman - Remington's first gas operated semi-auto.


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PostPosted: Tue May 03, 2011 8:22 am 
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First of all, welcome to Shotgun World. You're always among friends here. The Blue book of gun values may help as would old issues of Field and Stream, Gun Digest, or Outdoor life, full of adds. Make friends with a local gun shop owner or two. They get trades in all the time and may be able to help you find some good pieces. I hope you have fun building you're collection.

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PostPosted: Tue May 03, 2011 8:30 am 
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The Field and Stream and Gun Digest suggestions are perfect, thanks.
Thanks for the welcome.


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Two of the best made then was the Winchecter model 12 and the Ithaca model 37

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 Post subject: Re: 1950's shotguns
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I was thinking I'd need to add a Winchester and an Ithaca to the list.

Here's another question for the group: if you were going to endeavor to take on the collection I'm proposing, besides the Remington 878 and the Mossberg 190 I already have, pluse the Winnie Model 12 and Ithaca Model 37 proposed by patriot: what shotgun would you be sure to include?


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I would have to have at least one of the early 870's! most likely in 16!

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Do you want to have representative models that came on the market in the 1950s or ones that were available in the 1950s? For example the Model 12 Winchester was introduced to the world in 1913 as the Model 1912, but was available as the very popular Model 12 throughout the 1950s. Aside from the ones mentioned above, I would surely want to include a Winchester Model 59 which was not only introduced in the 1950s, but was the worlds first shotgun that had a barrel made of a very thin steel tube and then wrapped with several miles of fiberglass thread all bonded together with polyester resin. Certainly unique, but in the end, not very successful. I believe that the Remington 11-48 was introduced in 1948; close to being a true 1950s gun. Certainly there are others that I am unaware of. Good luck, and good hunting.

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The 11-48 is a no-brainer. I have one made in Dec 1950 that I got for less than $300 and it is in excellent condition. You won't get one for $100 but check out the Browning Double Automatics and Twelvettes. They are superbly made guns that are a unique design.

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 Post subject: Re: 1950's shotguns
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casonet wrote:
Do you want to have representative models that came on the market in the 1950s or ones that were available in the 1950s? For example the Model 12 Winchester was introduced to the world in 1913 as the Model 1912, but was available as the very popular Model 12 throughout the 1950s. Aside from the ones mentioned above, I would surely want to include a Winchester Model 59 which was not only introduced in the 1950s, but was the worlds first shotgun that had a barrel made of a very thin steel tube and then wrapped with several miles of fiberglass thread all bonded together with polyester resin. Certainly unique, but in the end, not very successful. I believe that the Remington 11-48 was introduced in 1948; close to being a true 1950s gun. Certainly there are others that I am unaware of. Good luck, and good hunting.



That is a great question and I think for me, the answer is guns made in the 1950's, regardless of when they were intro'd. I've just put a bid in on a Model 12 that was built in 1954, so I think that would seal that deal, but that was a great question - made me stop and think for a minute.


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 Post subject: Re: 1950's shotguns
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sneem wrote:
The 11-48 is a no-brainer. I have one made in Dec 1950 that I got for less than $300 and it is in excellent condition. You won't get one for $100 but check out the Browning Double Automatics and Twelvettes. They are superbly made guns that are a unique design.



Are Browning's all made in the USA?


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PostPosted: Tue May 03, 2011 1:21 pm 
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Actually few if any Brownings are/were made in the U.S. Until the 1960s most if not all were made in Belgium by FN. Then the company began manufacturing guns in Japan which continues to this day under contract with Japanese gun manufacturers. I am not a Browning expert, but I have been informed by more than one knowledgeable person that Browning never actually manufactured any guns as did Winchester in their own factory or Remington for that matter. Browning from the earliest days contracted the manufacture of their guns through a third party. In this sense, Browning is a "Brand" for guns made by others under Brownings patents and directions. A similar example would be the Chales Daley "brand" for imported guns. I believe that I am on correct on all of this, but others may have better information.

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PostPosted: Tue May 03, 2011 1:41 pm 
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Yeah I didn't think Brownings were made in the USA. That's probably one of my top criteria, born in the USA.

I just put in a bid on a Winchester Model 12 and found an Ithaca that I may bid on. I do know that my luck on buying these things for around $100 will run out quickly, but I still like the idea of having a half dozen or so from the .50's.


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Winchester model 50. It is what the 59 came from. 50 had an all steel barrel.


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Remington Model 11, Marlin 90, Winchester 24 are all worth considering, but the last two may be a little out of the price range you are looking at.




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