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 Post subject: Breech stuck closed
PostPosted: Sat May 21, 2011 7:50 pm 
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I have a Beretta AL 390 and the breech is stuck closed with a spent shell inside the barrel. I was loading the gun with a spent shell to see how the semi-auto action worked. The breech is not stuck in the closed position and will not pull back. How can I fix this? Any help is appreciated. Thanks




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 Post subject: Re: Breech stuck closed
PostPosted: Sat May 21, 2011 9:13 pm 
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Have you tried removing the barrel?

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 Post subject: Re: Breech stuck closed
PostPosted: Sat May 21, 2011 9:26 pm 
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Yes, however to remove the barrel, the breech needs to be pulled back. The breech lever prevents the barrel from sliding out when it is in the closed position.


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 Post subject: Re: Breech stuck closed
PostPosted: Sat May 21, 2011 9:37 pm 
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Hit the bolt handle with a rubber mallet.

Learn how to use your gun on the range, with a qualified person teaching you, not by fooling around with empty shells.

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 Post subject: Re: Breech stuck closed
PostPosted: Sun May 22, 2011 12:11 am 
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I had this happen to my 391. what happens is that flap on the top (i dont know what it is called) of the bolt that comes up to keep the bolt "locked" before firing is dirty and is stuck upwards so when u try and pull the bolt back it doesnt go down to release the bolt. Once i got the bolt out i just cleaned that part and it works fine now.


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 Post subject: Re: Breech stuck closed
PostPosted: Sun May 22, 2011 1:02 am 
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I believe that you may be able to remove the bolt handle and then slide the barrel/bolt assembly as a unit out the front, after removing the forend etc.
Then you may be able to tilt the bolt body down enough to free the bolt from the shell and barrel extension.
Now get your cleaning rod to knock out that fired shell and avoid such situations in future.

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As a rule, note that some bolt handles are less forgiving to the application of strikes and the brittle ones crack right off (Mossberg semi- auto, for example).

Fired shells can create a jam by having some distortion present from firing expansion that is out of round due to the chamber, and any alteration to rotation (clocking) will place that distortion in a different position, so the high spot is trying to fit in a different and less roomy area.

The problem of using fired shells from another gun is the lack of any similarity and some make no issue, and some make a severe problem where the bolt wedges before it is even closed.

Dirt or crud on the locking block of the bolt may have a lot to do with a stuck bolt, or may have absolutely nothing to do with a specific instance.

I try to get readers to understand that them having anecdotal exposure to a situation is bound to be a limiting factor in gunsmithing diagnosis.

Titlestplayer had it right in relating that his issue was corrected by the cleaning he applied to the parts, once he had them freed. He was straight and to the point and it is up to the reader to understand that the problem of dirt removal may not be the cure for their problem.
He did not state that his issue was from using a fired shell, just that his bolt got stuck.
He did not add information that went beyond his specific condition.

Details of corrective action are just as helpful as details of problem specifics, such as shell type (economy, reloads, high-brass, etc.) and gun condition (new, just-purchased used, just cleaned by neighbor, etc.) and firing environment (range, wet duck blind, etc.).

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 Post subject: Re: Breech stuck closed
PostPosted: Sun May 22, 2011 8:20 am 
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drsfmd wrote:
Hit the bolt handle with a rubber mallet.
:shock: Ooohhh, nooo!! :shock:

kirbythegunsmith wrote:
As a rule, note that some bolt handles are less forgiving to the application of strikes and the brittle ones crack right off (Mossberg semi- auto, for example).
Truer words were never spoken. Beretta bolt handles are brittle and subject to breaking. I have seen a lot of them broken in normal use.

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 Post subject: Re: Breech stuck closed
PostPosted: Sun May 22, 2011 9:18 am 
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Thanks for all the help. Titleistguy1 was correct; the locking block was stuck and the spent shell had nothing to do with the breech being stuck. I was able to oil it and with enough pulls on the breech lever the thing opened.


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 Post subject: Re: Breech stuck closed
PostPosted: Sun May 22, 2011 9:33 am 
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kps,

Don't you just love it when a plan comes together?

Glad you were able to get some useful advice to help solve your problem.

Now all you have to do is find a qualified person with a rubber mallet to teach you how to use your gun properly. LOL!


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 Post subject: Re: Breech stuck closed
PostPosted: Sun May 22, 2011 3:11 pm 
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LOL, yeah, you'll find plenty of them at the range. hahahah :lol:

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 Post subject: Re: Breech stuck closed
PostPosted: Fri Sep 12, 2014 12:15 pm 
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Hey Tittlistguy1. Thanks for the heads up. My bolt was stuck in the closed position and I was headed to the local gunshop when I read you suggestion. I oiled the bolt on my A391 and pulled a couple of time and it opened!
Thanks agian for saving me a trip.




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