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 Post subject: Garbi?
PostPosted: Thu Sep 15, 2011 4:34 pm 
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Opinions? thoughts? facts? (or not)

have an opportunity to purchase one that I quite like, but had not done much (any) research on Garbi.

Thanks

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 Post subject: Re: Garbi?
PostPosted: Thu Sep 15, 2011 4:47 pm 
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The question you ask is like asking, "I have an opportunity to buy a Chevy....what do you think?"

Model, year of proof, condition, pictures are a must before we can even begin.

Best I can tell you is that they are one of the big five (AyA, Grulla, Arrieta, Garbi, Ugartechea) making guns in Spain. The other smaller makers, Parkemy, CHOY, Arrizabalaga also make guns.


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 Post subject: Re: Garbi?
PostPosted: Thu Sep 15, 2011 6:16 pm 
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1997 Garbi boxlock (yes, really a boxlock)
LNIB
12ga, 2 3/4 chambers, 27.5 barrels, choked IC/M, still under proof of course

the big 5 comment helps

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 Post subject: Re: Garbi?
PostPosted: Thu Sep 15, 2011 7:20 pm 
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LoneCowboy wrote:
1997 Garbi boxlock (yes, really a boxlock)
LNIB
12ga, 2 3/4 chambers, 27.5 barrels, choked IC/M, still under proof of course

the big 5 comment helps


Box lock Garbi guns are not a surprise (I have one, myself). Spanish shotgun makers are in business to make shotguns. If a customer wants a box lock, and will pay the quoted price, then he will get a box lock.

There are two important things about the gun in which you have an interest:

1) Do you like it?

2) Do you like it enough to pay the asking price?

If you answered 'yes' twice, buy the gun :)

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 Post subject: Re: Garbi?
PostPosted: Thu Sep 15, 2011 7:27 pm 
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Ahhh, the famous Garbi boxlock. Not made anymore and they were made for a specific seller.

From all I have seen about them and read about them they are a superb boxlock, one of a kind for Garbi in the post DIARM world.

A LNIB gun is worth having. If you like it and the price is right, I would say jump on it.

The book "Spanish Best" addresses this very gun.

Here is a catalog shot of the pre-80's when the boxlock was a standard item. The 1997 proof were guns made from remaining frames as a one time shot, non-cataloged item, years after Garbi had focused on sidelocks only.

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 Post subject: Re: Garbi?
PostPosted: Thu Sep 15, 2011 7:58 pm 
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thank you very much.

and yes, the answer to the two questions above is yes.
I'm going back down to the fun store tomorrow.

I"m sure they will chuckle. They are bad bad bad men. :D

It's my wife's fault. she "needed" a new pair of shooting gloves so we had to go today. (got rained out for work).

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 Post subject: Re: Garbi?
PostPosted: Thu Sep 15, 2011 8:55 pm 
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Don't feel bad....Kyrie and I bought a gun each today!

Mine:

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 Post subject: Re: Garbi?
PostPosted: Fri Sep 16, 2011 8:01 am 
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beautiful
lovely engraving

what is it?

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 Post subject: Re: Garbi?
PostPosted: Fri Sep 16, 2011 8:23 am 
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chorizo wrote:
Don't feel bad....Kyrie and I bought a gun each today!

Mine:

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NICE!

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 Post subject: Re: Garbi?
PostPosted: Fri Sep 16, 2011 9:12 am 
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Another tickler:

Let's see if you all can figure it out just by looking at it and a description. For those of you who have prior knowledge, don't spoil the mystery. This is a classic "Buy the gun, not the model/name"

Third bite, ejectors, gas valves, articulated front trigger, 1960 proof, hand engraving, hand removable sidelocks, sculptured fences, 7lbs 3 ozs.

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 Post subject: Re: Garbi?
PostPosted: Fri Sep 16, 2011 10:35 am 
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Nice gun. Love the wood. Aya 53? Nah, that's too easy for your collection...


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 Post subject: Re: Garbi?
PostPosted: Fri Sep 16, 2011 11:28 am 
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I own a Garbi boxlock in 20 gauge. It is a nice little gun and very nicely constructed. It has ejectors,english wood and interesting engraving embellishment on the receiver and barrels. It is a pre-diarm gun. Given its price-point, its a nice piece. However, it doesn't have disc strikers and a few other amenities that might make me cling to it as a long term keeper.

Mitch...you guys are picking all the meat off the bones of that site. I looked that same gun over as well, and believe that it was among the highest quality engraving (I think its hand done not machine done) and wood that I've seen on that model..... way beyond its price-point and beyond the models that we see here on a daily basis. Good buy. Please leave the Union Armera Royal and the VS 212 alone.....I'm trying to muster the courage to pick one or the other up.


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 Post subject: Re: Garbi?
PostPosted: Fri Sep 16, 2011 11:33 am 
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The stockwood on the mystery gun would bring a smile to the face of even a wood fanatic :)W

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 Post subject: Re: Garbi?
PostPosted: Fri Sep 16, 2011 11:38 am 
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Illaheman wrote:
I own a Garbi boxlock in 20 gauge. It is a nice little gun and very nicely constructed. It has ejectors,english wood and interesting engraving embellishment on the receiver and barrels. It is a pre-diarm gun. Given its price-point, its a nice piece. However, it doesn't have disc strikers and a few other amenities that might make me cling to it as a long term keeper.


My Garbi box lock is a 12 gauge, English stocked, bushed firing pins, proof year 1982. It came into the country via CAI, as a salvage gun. Here is a picure of the engraving pattern:

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 Post subject: Re: Garbi?
PostPosted: Fri Sep 16, 2011 11:43 am 
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And here is mine (Chorizo made me do it!) :

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Proof year is 1958, it is a two barrel set.

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 Post subject: Re: Garbi?
PostPosted: Fri Sep 16, 2011 12:03 pm 
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Kyrie wrote:
And here is mine (Chorizo made me do it!) :

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Proof year is 1958, it is a two barrel set.


WOW!! I remember looking at this gun, but can't remember where.

Nice snag.

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 Post subject: Re: Garbi?
PostPosted: Fri Sep 16, 2011 12:13 pm 
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Kyrie,

You got one of the last pre-diarm guns made by Garbi!

Yes, Kyrie and I are picking through the guns. I have been eyeballing the VS212 also! It was a toss up on which to buy, but I went with the AyA for the reasons you state and the third lock up ........they were still medium game guns (ala Continental) then and had not made the transition to the light game gun double lockup and the lighter barrels and frames (ala English).

The mystery gun is an AyA #2, but at 7lbs 3 ozs, triple lock up, hand engraving and higher grade wood, 1410 gram barrels and 1960 proof, this was before the Kings (as in Mr. King of Anglo-Spanish Imports, not royalty) had his big influence in transitioning the AyA #2 into an English patterned light game gun. It really is a sturdier, stockier big brother of the current version of the AyA #2, more in keeping with the model 53 than the #2

RG...you came close! And you are right. I am not a fan of the current model #2, but this gun, in spite of the model designation, is not easy to come by. They only made them in this style for a few years in the late 50 and early 60. So it is a welcome addition to the collection.
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 Post subject: Re: Garbi?
PostPosted: Fri Sep 16, 2011 2:28 pm 
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Did you find out the length of pull on the VS 212?

What is your opinion on the Royal?


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 Post subject: Re: Garbi?
PostPosted: Fri Sep 16, 2011 2:39 pm 
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I didn't on the 212 and the Royal I have never had the pleasure of playing with.

They are very responsive to questions, usually getting back to you same day or first thing in the morning our time. They are updating the website right now so the list of guns is down.

http://armeriataradell.com/?page_id=152

Be sure to tell them Miguel from Idaho sent you their way!


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 Post subject: Re: Garbi?
PostPosted: Fri Sep 16, 2011 3:15 pm 
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This is the Garbi 20 gauge I own. Completely different engraving than Kyrie's.


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