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 Post subject: Russell Arms shotgun
PostPosted: Tue Nov 22, 2011 5:34 pm 
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I have a Russel Arms shotgun, 12g, external hammers however we are missing the butt plate. Round barrell, 30in long.Is there anywhere we can get another butt plate.


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 Post subject: Re: Russell Arms shotgun
PostPosted: Tue Nov 22, 2011 7:18 pm 
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You have what is known as a "Trade Brand Name" shotgun. A "Trade Brand Name" shotgun is one that was made by a major maker (and before 1940) for and was sold by a wholesale sporting goods dealer, a retail chain store or an independent retailer who chose the name to go on the gun. I have three listings for the name Russell Arms Company, two made by a Belgian maker named Joseph Cap of Liege,Belgium. Those names are just plain RUSSELL ARNS CO and RUSSEL ARMS CO FINE BARREL STEEL. These guns were made for, imported by and sold by H & D Folsom a large wholesale and retail sporting goods dealer located in New York City. The guns would have been imported before 1914. One other name, again just plain RUSSELL ARMS CO was made by Crescent Fire ArmsCompany of Norwich,CT (1892 to 1931) for and again sold by H & D Folsom. To tell which is which look for proof marks on the bottom of the barrels under the forearm. Belgian made guns will have the letters "ELG" in an oval with a crown over that stamped there. America made guns will not have proof marks. Finding an original butt plate is going to be difficult because none have been made in over eighty years. You can surf the various gun auction sites like Gun Broker for parts or parts guns being auctioned off. You can also contact Gun Parts Incorporated to see if they might have one that can be adapted. A word of caution here. The gun is at least eight years old and was designed and made using the technology and metallurgy of the times and for the ammunition in use back then. Belgian made guns are most likely to have damascus barrels and all will be chambered for 2 1/2 inch shells loaded with black powder and lead shot. hey were not designed for modern 3 inch or magnum shells loaded with high pressure smokeless powder or steel shot. I recommend that you do not attempt to shoot the gun. Value? Every one wants to know. The value of these old guns depends upon the condition, the amount of original finish remaining on the metal and wood as well as the mechanical condition. A prime condition example that appears to have come out of the factory yesterday afternoon might fetch as much as $150 while a rusty rotten incomplete piece of junk fit only for parts salvage or as a tomato stake might bring as little as $10.


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 Post subject: Re: Russell Arms shotgun
PostPosted: Tue Nov 22, 2011 8:08 pm 
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If you place the buttstock on a flat piece of paper (grocery bag, copy paper, whatever), butt end down, and trace the outline with a pen/pencil onto the pencil, you will have a template you can cut out & carry in your wallet.

The template can be both measured for length & width, and/or physically matched to unmarked buttplates in a gunshow parts dealer's, or a gunstore's, or s gunsmith's scrounge box of extra parts/buttplates, until a suitable replacement is found.

With the measurements, BP's can be ordered online (google: buttplate)

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