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 Post subject: Remington model 29
PostPosted: Wed Nov 23, 2011 11:58 am 
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Hey guys, on a gun shop that I frequent's website I saw a model 29 for sale the other day. Now other than it was a bottom pumper, I don't know much about the model 29 and I have never seen one. But it did intrigue me. I am a big time fan of the Ithaca 37, and I know that it was an update of the Remington 17. What was the model 29? Was it like the Remington model 10 with that little flapper thing for the ejector or was it more like the model 17/Ithaca 37? Do any of you all have one, and if so what can you tell me about them? It is gone from their website, and I do not NEED one by any means, but I wouldn't mind having one in the collection for history's sake if one came along at a fire sale price.

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 Post subject: Re: Remington model 29
PostPosted: Wed Nov 23, 2011 12:46 pm 
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When compared to Winchester Model 12 those are junk and parts are made of unobtainium.
If you're into pre WWII Remington shotguns there were three standouts: Model 1894, Model 31 and Model 32. The 1894 is probably best ole' sxs made in America.


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 Post subject: Re: Remington model 29
PostPosted: Wed Nov 23, 2011 1:13 pm 
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MK23, is the Model 11 missing from your list?


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 Post subject: Re: Remington model 29
PostPosted: Wed Nov 23, 2011 5:25 pm 
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The Remington Arms Co., Inc. Model 29 was a short-lived/stop-gap "improvement" of the Model 10, essentially replacing flat springs with coil springs, offered just a couple/few years until the Model 31 was introduced.

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 Post subject: Re: Remington model 29
PostPosted: Thu Nov 24, 2011 8:55 am 
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Thanks gentlemen. I wonder though, why were they basing the 29 off of the model 10 instead of the model 17. How different was the model 10 from the 17?

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 Post subject: Re: Remington model 29
PostPosted: Thu Nov 24, 2011 11:03 am 
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The design of the 17 was a browning design, very simple and clean but the 10/29's are from a different designer Pederson. The 10/29's suffer badly when they wear and get out of time. Browning had so many patents that had to be worked around that made those guns less than ideal. Unless a gun you are looking at is very good mechanically I'd pass, they are very hard to get right again.


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 Post subject: Re: Remington model 29
PostPosted: Thu Nov 24, 2011 11:46 am 
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Remington Model 17 -- Remington Arms Co., Inc. manufactured approximately 73,000 Model 17 pump shotguns from 1921 to 1933. While production stopped in 1933, they were actually cleaning up and selling guns out of inventory until 1941. The gun was based on a John M. Browning Patent No. 1,143,170
granted June 15, 1915. However, Remington was gearing up for WW-I at that time and it would be six more years before the gun came out. Remington's designer John D. Pedersen made design refinements in 1919 (applications filed Sept. 15, 1919, Patent No. 1,429,621 granted Sept. 19, 1922 and Patent No. 1,487,799 granted Mar. 25, 1924) and G.H. Garrison made further improvements. It was the patents on these improvements that forced Ithaca to wait until 1937 to bring out their copy of this gun, though Ithaca had actually built some guns by 1932. Actually Pedersen has so many patent applications filed in that 1919 time frame it is hard to tell which really apply!


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 Post subject: Re: Remington model 29
PostPosted: Thu Nov 24, 2011 4:03 pm 
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Pederson was prolific no doubt and seemed to revel in complicated design. I have always marveled at all of those men dreaming up firearm mechanics that relie on close tolerances and timing all in their head, no cad/cam.Of course they chucked alot out there and the good stuff stayed. We think we are smart just to fix the stuff.


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 Post subject: Re: Remington model 29
PostPosted: Fri Nov 25, 2011 12:50 am 
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Chairman, you are right about the genius of those guys. Browning, Pederson, etc... were perhaps the great minds of their times. I grew up in a strictly Remington family, and really appreciate good Remington shotguns. But lately I have discovered Ithaca 37's and have become addicted! I look at those great old guns of the past, and then I look at the guns we turn out today and think that surely we have digressed. I have had new pumps that I had to stone the action just to get the grittiness out, not so with those great old guns of the past. Those were works of mechanical genius and much of what we have today are recycled coke can receivers with tupperware stocks costing upwards of $1000. Something just ain't right.

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 Post subject: Re: Remington model 29
PostPosted: Sat Nov 26, 2011 10:23 am 
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Colonel26 wrote:
But lately I have discovered Ithaca 37's and have become addicted! I look at those great old guns of the past, and then I look at the guns we turn out today and think that surely we have digressed. I have had new pumps that I had to stone the action just to get the grittiness out, not so with those great old guns of the past. Those were works of mechanical genius and much of what we have today are recycled coke can receivers with tupperware stocks costing upwards of $1000. Something just ain't right.


Colonel,
Yep, the old 37s are as good as they got. The new ones made in Sandusky uphold the old tradition. The Sandusky actions are as smooth as can be and the triggers break as crisp as a glass rod. They are not inexpensive, but the workmanship and materials are what one would expect for the price. Based on what they retailed for 50 years ago and today's dollar, it wouldn't surprise me if the costs were close to being equal. Gil


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 Post subject: Re: Remington model 29
PostPosted: Sat Nov 26, 2011 5:20 pm 
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Colonel26 wrote:
Thanks gentlemen. I wonder though, why were they basing the 29 off of the model 10 instead of the model 17. How different was the model 10 from the 17?


I think the gist of it was they knew they just needed something to hold them over until the 31 was ready. I have heard the 31 referred to as a side-ejecting evolution of the Model 17.


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 Post subject: Re: Remington model 29
PostPosted: Sat Nov 26, 2011 9:10 pm 
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The 31 is superior to Remington pumps that came before it. Today it is with us as Mossberg pump. If one wants bottom ejector Ithaca 37 is the best way to go.


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 Post subject: Re: Remington model 29
PostPosted: Thu Dec 29, 2011 3:43 pm 
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MK23 wrote:
The 31 is superior to Remington pumps that came before it. Today it is with us as Mossberg pump. If one wants bottom ejector Ithaca 37 is the best way to go.


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MK23 wrote:
The 31 is superior to all other pumps. Today it is with us as Mossberg pump. If one wants bottom ejector Ithaca 37 is the best way to go.


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 Post subject: Re: Remington model 29
PostPosted: Thu Dec 29, 2011 4:38 pm 
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For anyone interested in Remington Model 29s there is an original manual for sale on ebay --

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Remingt ... 3cc04e8843


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 Post subject: Re: Remington model 29
PostPosted: Tue Mar 20, 2012 10:32 pm 
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I got a Remingtom Model 29 in 1958 from my uncle, my dad had sold it to him about 1946.
The magazine tube had a crack and the 3rd shell would catch and not load. I brazed the tube and it worked fine. I did find another tube a few years later.
I have used the gun for duck, pheasant and even slugs with no problems with it. I have shot both 2 3/4 mag shells and regular loads and #2 to #7 shot. It's a great gun and with only around 28,000 being produces it is a rare breed in many ways. It is a improvement over the Model 10 and is a simpler design than the other bottom eject guns.
Mine is a A grade and it was made in several grades also, I wish I had a rib barrel but guess one cant have everything. As I shoot left handed this gun is great with bottom ejection and in full time I have had it it's never jammed or failed to fire. With the 32" barrel it works great for just about any situation be it field of blind.
Infor on gun
http://lonestarfab.com/gunsmithing/remi ... manual.pdf
http://lonestarfab.com/gunsmithing/remi ... del-29.htm


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 Post subject: Re: Remington model 29
PostPosted: Sat Mar 24, 2012 10:11 pm 
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The three good ones are Model 17, Model 31 and very successful 870 'Wingmaster'. The rest of old Remington pump guns make wonderful door stops when they break down and can't be fixed due to lack of spare parts.


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 Post subject: Re: Remington model 29
PostPosted: Tue Jul 30, 2013 3:49 pm 
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I picked up a Model 10 the other day - So now have a Model 29 and the earlier version or the improved one . Also own a Ithaca Model 37 and Browning BPS - all off the same design .
Still like the Model 29 - might be sentimental rather than fact but still a good shooting gun.




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