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 Post subject: Beretta 686 vs Beretta SV10 ......
PostPosted: Tue Dec 06, 2011 8:33 am 
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How do the two compare? The intended purpuse would be sporting clays and 5 stand. I would shoot a little skeet for practice.

I would consider this my first serious purchase of a modern sporting shotgun. I have been at this for a year and I think I now know enough to make an educated decision based on the games that are availible to me.

Is the extra money for the SV 10 worth it? Both feel much better than my Citori. Until now I have just been messing around with a gun here and a gun there. If I like either one I would buy it now and a Silver Hawk in a 20 gauge a year down the road for hunting and call it a day.

The Citori skeet and trap will be given to my brother. I just do not need all of these shotguns not at this piont in my life.

All comments are welcome and I would really like to shoot with SS when he returns.
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 Post subject: Re: Beretta 686 vs Beretta SV10 ......
PostPosted: Wed Dec 07, 2011 9:22 am 
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I had a 687 SPII with 30" barrels and then changed to a SV-10 with 32" barrels. I really liked both guns. The 32" barrels were nicer for me so not a direct comparison. The SV-10 barrels I think are a little lighter than the 680 series. Pretty fast swing dynamics. I like the SV-10 and easy take down is nice. Gun seems to kick more directly on shoulder where the 687 had some barrel jump. You probably need to pick both up and see which feels better. Some like the lighter barrels and some not.

I am again looking for a new gun and if I dont get a Blaser or Zoli I will probably get a new 682 or 687.


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 Post subject: Re: Beretta 686 vs Beretta SV10 ......
PostPosted: Wed Dec 07, 2011 12:18 pm 
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The 682 Gold E has yet another barrel set. I have a 32" Sporting and I like it a lot. The barrels are relatively light, but smooth-swinging and well-balanced. I have not owned a 686 or 687 Sporting model, but I've handled and shot them. I like the 682 Gold E's dynamics a whole lot better (which is why I have one). The 686/7 makes a great field gun, though, with yet different barrel sets and lengths... And the 20s are wonderful. :)

Depending on where you look, you might be in the price ballpark of the 682 anyway, so it could be worth checking them out, also, before buying. The Kick-Off is a great feature, too, available with the SV.

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 Post subject: Re: Beretta 686 vs Beretta SV10 ......
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I'm not sold on the SV stock removal system. The 686 is a proven design.
How about a nice used 686 12 gauge, and a set of Briley Companion tubes in 20 gauge for hunting?

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This is interesting. I would like the option of a Gracoil. The 682 gold did feel nice. My eyes automatically moved to the higher price tag. I did not even think of the tubes.
Thank you all. Now I just need to get doublr triggers .

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 Post subject: Re: Beretta 686 vs Beretta SV10 ......
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Why do you want double triggers? They suck for targets, and having the choice of two chokes for hunting is not always that big of an advantage.
Is a 682 up for consideration? It wont have auto safeties (which I detest) but some like for hunting.

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 Post subject: Re: Beretta 686 vs Beretta SV10 ......
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A 686 or SV10 Sporting model won't have auto safeties, either.

Auto safeties are nice to have in the field, but not at the range.

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The 682 gold e was the first gun suggested by the rep. I have become use to the auto safety and double triggers with my AYA at 5 stand. For that matter I like ejectors. These are not deal breakers just a wish list. I will get what they have in stock. I do not want to put this off into the next year. I do love double trggers. They force me to think and are good for 5 stand.

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Thomas Bland-The Brent 12g 3 inch chamber 30 inch bbls d/t pow stock full and full sxs


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 Post subject: Re: Beretta 686 vs Beretta SV10 ......
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Sorry. I like extractors.

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 Post subject: Re: Beretta 686 vs Beretta SV10 ......
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You can have the ejectors modified to extractors. If you want the gun to function in a certain way, the feature that allows you to turn the ejectors on and off seems to be unnecessary complexity. I wouldn't make that a primary spec.

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 Post subject: Re: Beretta 686 vs Beretta SV10 ......
PostPosted: Thu Dec 08, 2011 4:22 pm 
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Thank you BarryD. And you are correct that will not be an issue. Nor will the double triggers.

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Thomas Bland-The Brent 12g 3 inch chamber 30 inch bbls d/t pow stock full and full sxs


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 Post subject: Re: Beretta 686 vs Beretta SV10 ......
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My Gold E did come with more than one trigger. But you can only use them one at a time, and you have to loosen a set screw to change them out. :mrgreen:

That said, for a shooter used to double triggers, the adjustable trigger of the 682 might be worthwhile, since you can figure out where you want the trigger to be, and put it there at will.

I shoot both, though I'm newer to double triggers. The adjustment back and forth between double and singer trigger guns has been a non-issue. I have a much harder time, in the field, going from a tang safety O/U or SxS to a semiauto with a crossbolt under the receiver! MUCH harder. :)

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 Post subject: Re: Beretta 686 vs Beretta SV10 ......
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The SV10 can be changed between ejectors and extractors with just the turn of a screw.
A Gold E would need the springs shortened.

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True. But if someone doesn't want to change back and forth, I don't know if this feature is worth the trouble. Just clip the springs if you want extractors. It does seem that the only complaints about the SV mechanicals on this board are related to the extractor/ejector system. I don't have personal experience with this, good or bad, though.

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My major gripe is the kick off. It does not have the adjustibility of the gracoil.
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That's my beef with the Kick-Off, too. It works great, and it even looks as good as a recoil suspension system ever has -- not the bastardized prosthetic appearance of most. However, the gun had best fit you, because there's not a lot you can do to change it if it doesn't.

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 Post subject: Re: Beretta 686 vs Beretta SV10 ......
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I have all but ruled out the sv10 due to the kick off. Will stop by the shop today for a quick feel. Silver Pigeon with 32 inch bbls. Lets see how that feels.

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The SV10 is available without KickOff too, you know.
Add your recoil system of choice, set to extract and your all set.

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if I was FORCED to shoot a Beretta, it would have to be a 682 Gold E, nice gun. The lower end guns are just that, lower...

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 Post subject: Re: Beretta 686 vs Beretta SV10 ......
PostPosted: Sat Dec 10, 2011 10:28 am 
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Do tell Slugo do tell.

What do you mean by lower end gun. Examples please.

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