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 Post subject: Remington 1100 Action bar failure
PostPosted: Wed Jan 11, 2012 6:10 pm 
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While shooting some skeet today, the action bar on my 1100 broke in half. Is this probably just from being worn out or could something else have caused this to break?


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 Post subject: Re: Remington 1100 Action bar failure
PostPosted: Wed Jan 11, 2012 7:01 pm 
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Can't say without looking at it. If it has some years on it and was working fine, I would say just get a new action bar. I have never had a problem, but i have seen a few that have failed.

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 Post subject: Re: Remington 1100 Action bar failure
PostPosted: Wed Jan 11, 2012 7:49 pm 
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There are no bending force on the action bars in normal operations so I would not expect any stress on them in normal operation. I'd guess something was done to damage them when it was disassembled or something jammed it up when it cycled? That second option does seem unlikely though as I doubt there is enough force to break steel. Did the bolt cycle all the way to the rear?


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 Post subject: Re: Remington 1100 Action bar failure
PostPosted: Wed Jan 11, 2012 8:07 pm 
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The gun was working fine. Had just shot two rounds of skeet and was starting third round. I went to load a round in the magazine and the round wouldn't go all the way in. I then noticed that the Chamber appeared not to be fully closed. Disassembled gun, found broken action bar.


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 Post subject: Re: Remington 1100 Action bar failure
PostPosted: Fri Jan 13, 2012 8:16 am 
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hmmmm. Got a picture?


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 Post subject: Re: Remington 1100 Action bar failure
PostPosted: Sat Jan 14, 2012 3:01 pm 
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 Post subject: Re: Remington 1100 Action bar failure
PostPosted: Sat Jan 14, 2012 3:33 pm 
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Nothing lasts forever, I guess. I thought these action bars were
pretty bullet proof, but what can go wrong will eventually, right?
Just feel lucky they last so well, it being a rare thing when these
break. On the other hand the Ithaca model 51 went through
action bars like a knife through butter, and you can't get them
any more, so you have to weld one when it fails. All in all,
the old 1100 holds up pretty well.

I imagine these action bars hold up better than the SX-1 action
sleeve, which has a really good reputation for holding up. Yet
even the SX-1 action sleeve has been know to fail, the saddle
which is spot welded on comes off occasionally. When they
do Nuline will TIG weld them back on. I think the Remington
repair, of getting a new bar is cheaper, easier, and required
less often. I doubt you will ever break another.

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 Post subject: Re: Remington 1100 Action bar failure
PostPosted: Sat Jan 14, 2012 3:58 pm 
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Thanks for all the help. New action bar came in mail today from Brownells, put gun back together, will test tomorrow. Hopefully I reassembled correctly. Kind of new to shooting.


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 Post subject: Re: Remington 1100 Action bar failure
PostPosted: Sat Jan 14, 2012 6:40 pm 
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Yep, as Forrest said, "Sh*t happens." I haven't had one fail on 8 different guns in 49 years, but I have seen several.

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 Post subject: Re: Remington 1100 Action bar failure
PostPosted: Sun Jan 15, 2012 8:31 am 
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Does it only have one action bar or did hey both break?


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 Post subject: Re: Remington 1100 Action bar failure
PostPosted: Sun Jan 15, 2012 12:02 pm 
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The action bar consists of two bars. They both broke. Sorry bad pics. Wanted to get close up of how twisted and mutilated one side was. The other side looks like it snapped fairly clean.


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 Post subject: Remington 1100 Action bar failure
PostPosted: Sun Jan 15, 2012 3:30 pm 
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Be sure to read and heed the 1100 longevity tips SGW Sticky, re grease. It makes a nice shock absorber.

Also might want to look at your action spring, follower, and tube, as well as the link, for signs of binding.

Although people probably get over-excited about a short (compressed through use) spring (original length is 15.5" IIRC), if it were not providing sufficient shock absorption, that could have lead to your break.

From the pics at the inside of the break, it looks more like fatigue rather than a single jam/snap. That peening behind the break is curious too.


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 Post subject: Re: Remington 1100 Action bar failure
PostPosted: Sun Jan 15, 2012 4:30 pm 
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I guess I meant to ask if they both broke at this time or if one had been missing for a while.

I just put a new action spring in mine and it was 15".


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 Post subject: Re: Remington 1100 Action bar failure
PostPosted: Sun Jan 15, 2012 6:08 pm 
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Looks like one broke and you kept shooting, not knowing it had broken, and that finished them off. Usually, one side breaks and then the gun quits working correctly.

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 Post subject: Re: Remington 1100 Action bar failure
PostPosted: Tue Jan 17, 2012 9:19 am 
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The action bar on my friend's 1100 Sporting 28 just broke, too. It cracked apart from fore to aft under the sleeve and jammed the gun so the bolt wouldn't close. He's had a lot of trouble with this gun. The end of the magazine tube broke off a few months ago, and the gun was returned to Remington for repair and reconditioning. Prior to that, the extractor broke and then there was a feed latch problem. The gun has not been shot a great deal either.


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 Post subject: Re: Remington 1100 Action bar failure
PostPosted: Fri Jan 20, 2012 8:43 am 
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That's amazing. I've never seen or heard of anything like those things happening. I would have to think there was some problem with the steel. I had an 1100 with a magazine tube that was prone to rusting/corrosion under the gas ports. I've often thought it was just some unusual steel defect because I'd never seen that on other 1100/11-87s I've used and owned


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