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 Post subject: mossberg 500 vs ithaca 37
PostPosted: Sat May 05, 2012 2:53 am 
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I'm looking to buy a new gun and i really like both of them and i can't decide.
I've heard some ithaca 37's have problems
and I've heard mossberg 500's are poor quality
i really like the ithaca but if they have problems i would rather go with the mossberg.
I'm not sure when the guns were made (if that makes a difference)

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 Post subject: Re: mossberg 500 vs ithaca 37
PostPosted: Sat May 05, 2012 5:21 am 
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Both are fine shotguns and have been around for a dogs age and both a USA made!
Which is best for you just depends on what style of gun fits/feels best to you.
Really can't go wrong with either.
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 Post subject: Re: mossberg 500 vs ithaca 37
PostPosted: Sat May 05, 2012 6:41 am 
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Ithaca and Mossberg will make things right if you have a problem with their firearms.


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 Post subject: Re: mossberg 500 vs ithaca 37
PostPosted: Sat May 05, 2012 7:10 am 
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Both are good guns. It sounds like they are both used guns as you don't know when they were made. The Mossberg is, was and should be less expensive. Choke tubes would be a plus for just about any use, does either gun have them? Basically, it's your money and your choice.

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 Post subject: Re: mossberg 500 vs ithaca 37
PostPosted: Sat May 05, 2012 7:24 am 
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Both guns are workhorses, both will last a long time, neither really have any glaring faults, I have a 37 from the early 80's that the end cap stripped off the for end and rendered the gun useless in the duck blind on the 27th round, since then it has been flawless, and has over 20,000 rounds on it. Pick the one that feels best to you, you can't go wrong, Oldfarmer is correct, the 500 should be cheaper.


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 Post subject: Re: mossberg 500 vs ithaca 37
PostPosted: Sat May 05, 2012 7:36 am 
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The Ithaca was originally the Remington model 17 (for 1917) in 20 ga.. They sold the design and manufacturing rights to so they could intoduce a new model Remington pump.

It's a much older design than the Mossberg, and a good gun with a longer history. I had one and loved it, but in my old age have taken up O/Us since I don't like bending to pick up empties on the Sporting Clays and skeet ranges. But my Deerslayer II is still with me, and has killed a LOT of deer!

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 Post subject: Re: mossberg 500 vs ithaca 37
PostPosted: Sat May 05, 2012 7:55 am 
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Someday I may buy a 37, but for now I do own 3 500's.
They are inexpensive and they always work.
I purchased all of them used and have never paid more than $200.
As long as you realize that you are buying a workhorse and not some pretty shotgun, you wont be dissapointed.

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 Post subject: Re: mossberg 500 vs ithaca 37
PostPosted: Sat May 05, 2012 8:27 am 
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While the Mossberg is indeed a good, rugged, and generally reliable shotgun, there are some very big differences between the two.

1. Construction. The Ithaca receiver is milled and machined from a solid block of steel. tolerances are very precise, and it is probably the best constructed pump available.

2. The Ithaca barrel connects to the receiver with an interrupted thread fitting. Very rugged and precise.

3. Weight: although made of steel, more material is milled off where not needed, and the M37 has very nice balance and handling.

4. Bottom load and bottom ejection: some of the "tactical crowd" prefer the side loading and side ejection of the Mossberg. Some clay Target shooters prefer the side loading feature of the 500.
Most hunters, and all clay Target shooters, prefer bottom ejection as on the M37.

We've ended up with 2 Mossberg 500's over the years for various reasons, but quickly sold both. On the other hand, you couldn't buy my M37's for anything but a ridiculous price, and then I'd turn around and buy a couple more. We prefer M37's and BPS's by a wide margin.


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 Post subject: Re: mossberg 500 vs ithaca 37
PostPosted: Sat May 05, 2012 9:18 am 
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I have shot Ithaca M37s for over 50 yrs, and never had a problem. The 37 is a Cadillac and the 500 is a Chev pickup. They'll both get you to the dance.
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 Post subject: Re: mossberg 500 vs ithaca 37
PostPosted: Sat May 05, 2012 9:39 am 
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There is no comparison. The Ithaca is by far the best gun of the two. If you like stamped parts, aluminum and plastic parts then you will think the Ithaca is not as good.


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 Post subject: Re: mossberg 500 vs ithaca 37
PostPosted: Sat May 05, 2012 11:45 am 
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I have had both. I recently chose to purchase a Mossberg in 16ga solely because of the top tang safety which is easier to use when you shoot lefthanded (as I do. )


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 Post subject: Re: mossberg 500 vs ithaca 37
PostPosted: Sat May 05, 2012 12:07 pm 
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besk wrote:
I have had both. I recently chose to purchase a Mossberg in 16ga solely because of the top tang safety which is easier to use when you shoot lefthanded (as I do. )


If that us a concern for you lefties (not talking politics here) the Browning BPS gives you a top tang safety, and left hand friendly bottom ejection as well.

The safety on a M37 can also be reversed I believe.


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 Post subject: Re: mossberg 500 vs ithaca 37
PostPosted: Sat May 05, 2012 2:22 pm 
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Ithaca makes a left hand safety for the Model 37. Very easy to install, when the gun is apart you will see all the milled parts and no stampings or plastic used in the Ithaca. The shotgun is made by gun people for gun people.

The top safety on the Mossberg is a distraction for me sticking up like a big wart on someones nose when shouldering the gun. The Ithaca safety is right behind the trigger and all it takes is a slight push and the gun is ready to fire. And yes I'm left handed.


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 Post subject: Re: mossberg 500 vs ithaca 37
PostPosted: Sat May 05, 2012 4:00 pm 
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In my opinion the Mossberg comes no where near the Ithaca.
The Ithaca is a better made gun.
My Ithaca's pre 1975 that I bought new can pump fire or (slang term) slam fire without pulling the trigger each time you pump.
Just hold the trigger back and keep pumping 5 shots 1 2 3.
Todays Ithaca's are made good but they should have left a good thing alone in 1975 when they removed the way you could pump fire the model 37.
John Browning one of the worlds greatest gun designers made the Ithaca to fire that way.
I guess all the people at Ithaca with all their degrees think they are smarter than John Browning and modified his design.
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 Post subject: Re: mossberg 500 vs ithaca 37
PostPosted: Sat May 05, 2012 5:25 pm 
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I think Ithaca and others was asked by a certain govt. agency to eliminate that feature.


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 Post subject: Re: mossberg 500 vs ithaca 37
PostPosted: Sat May 05, 2012 7:59 pm 
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Really???? Comparing a Model 37 to a Mossberg????? Like comparing a Mercedes to a Model T
. I had a Mossberg and still own a Model 37. It isn't even close, buy the Model 37.

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 Post subject: Re: mossberg 500 vs ithaca 37
PostPosted: Sat May 05, 2012 8:27 pm 
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I'm not sure which one I'm going to pick, I know the guns are very different, I'm going to see which one feels nicer, But another thing is they have like 5+ Ithaca's and 10+ Mossberg's, so i really don't know which one i will end up with.

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 Post subject: Re: mossberg 500 vs ithaca 37
PostPosted: Sat May 05, 2012 8:53 pm 
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thelukai:

What is your budget?

Where do you live? Are you just wanting to purchase one locally, or are you open to buying online?

Plus, I would be looking here on the SGW classifieds under Pump Shotguns.

Finally, I own Remingtons, Ithaca M37's, and Browning BPS's. If I were you, and you want a really nice pump, and want a newer one, I'd also be open to a Browning BPS. You can get a like new one for about $400 if your careful, with a 26" or 28" VR barrel, and choke tubes.

Here's one in 20 gauge that is a crazy good deal, and looks very clean:
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=285144609
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 Post subject: Re: mossberg 500 vs ithaca 37
PostPosted: Sat May 05, 2012 9:55 pm 
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I've owned quite a few Ithaca 37's and remington 17's (the original gun of that design) and I never warmed to the bottom loading/ejection design,. I much prefer the side ejection design on a pump gun so I can just throw a round in the side and close the action to load the first round.

The mossberg 500 has the side ejection that I like, but when it comes to pump guns, I'll take a remington over all others. Sorry model 12 lovers, 31's rule.

Wait till you find a nice remington. 31 or 870 wingmaster.

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ps. winchester 42's are the exception to the above, but only because there are no model 31 410's :)


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 Post subject: Re: mossberg 500 vs ithaca 37
PostPosted: Sat May 05, 2012 11:14 pm 
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Well, I just picked up a 37 and I like it a great deal from a fit and finish and "feel" standpoint, but I've put no rounds through it.. The first shotgun I bought was a Maverick 88 which is close to a 500, I've put thousands of rounds through it and now have two barrels and some other goodies for it. I'll have to see how much I dig the Ithaca, but I imagine it will be wonderful. My father has a Model 12 20ga that's such a sweet little shotgun. I've only put a handful of rounds through it but it's very nice.

I really like many of the firearms I've handled and shot, so I'm pretty easy to please. Just judging by the materials and design, I'd rather have the Ithaca if I was going to only have one out of the two, plastic trigger housings don't do it for me so much on something I will hand down to my children or grandchildren, but I imagine my Maverick will be kicking for a long time to come.


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