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 Post subject: H&R Topper Jr. Model 480
PostPosted: Sun May 27, 2012 5:28 pm 
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I have a H&R Topper Jr. Model 480 that belonged to my now deceased father.
I would like to date this gun if at all possible it has no serial number anywhere that I can find. The stock appears to be real walnut or a very good stain job followed by years of dirt and oil. Tomorrow I will be 58 yrs.old and I remember this gun being around when I was a small lad. I believe the trigger guard and forend filler to be plastic and not bakalite as it has a high polish finish. I'm not trying to put a value on this just want an idea as to how old it is. I could post a few pictures if needed.


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 Post subject: Re: H&R Topper Jr. Model 480
PostPosted: Sun May 27, 2012 6:31 pm 
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The following information is extracted from the Blue Book of Gun Values, Thirty First Edition,. dated 2010. "The TOPPER name was applied to a large series of single barrel shotguns therefore there were several different models used the TOPPER name starting with the Model 489 in 1943" "Model 480 TOPPER JR. 20 gauge or ,410 bore side lever break open junior version of the Model 148, 12 1/2 inch LOP (Length of pull) 26 ,inch barrel with various chokes, satin lacquered stock and forearm, hard rubber butt plate, approximately 5 lbs. Manufactured 1958 to 1961."
Values: 100%-$155, 98%-$135, 95%-$120, 90%-$100, 80%-$85, 70%-$75 and 60%-$65
This is the only entry for a Harrington & Richardson Model 480 TOPPER JR. If this description does not fit your gun or memory, there are thirteen other TOPPER models listed.


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 Post subject: Re: H&R Topper Jr. Model 480
PostPosted: Sun May 27, 2012 6:44 pm 
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Ned Fall, thank you for the response. My gun does have the side lever for breaking the action. The barrel does measure 21 3/4" instead of 26" though. The years of manufacture also make sense with my birth date of 1954. Again thanks for your considerate help.


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 Post subject: Re: H&R Topper Jr. Model 480
PostPosted: Sun May 27, 2012 7:01 pm 
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You are quite welcome. Question, are you measuring the barrel length correctly? A shotgun barrel is measured from the muzzle to the breech face (with no shell in the chamber), chamber length is included in overall barrel length.


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 Post subject: Re: H&R Topper Jr. Model 480
PostPosted: Sun May 27, 2012 8:25 pm 
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This thing is like half of a coach gun.

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 Post subject: Re: H&R Topper Jr. Model 480
PostPosted: Mon May 28, 2012 2:37 am 
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A COACH GUN is a short barrel (20 inches or less) double barrel shotgun. This if has has a shortened barrel is just a sawed off shotgun.


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 Post subject: Re: H&R Topper Jr. Model 480
PostPosted: Mon May 28, 2012 9:50 am 
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Ned I've never checked to see if it was a sawed off or not because the current Topper Jr. has a 22" barrel. After reading your last post I grabbed a Winchester 3/4 ounce Foster style slug and inserted it into the front of the barrel. It slid right in with not to much room left, not what you would expect from a barrel stamped full choke.


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 Post subject: Re: H&R Topper Jr. Model 480
PostPosted: Mon May 28, 2012 12:28 pm 
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Gentlemen
There are at least eleven models of the Harrington & Richardson TOPPER single barrel shotgun including the Model 47, Model 48, Model 058, Model 098, Model 148, Model 162, Model 188, Model 188A, Model 480 Model 490 Model 580 and Model 590. H & R has been making them since 1943. They come in all gauges 12,16, 20 and .410 bore with barrel lengths from 22 to 32 inches with various chokes. I am no expert on shotgun chokes but I would think that people at H & R knowing that someone is going to shoot a slug projectile through one of their guns might make the choke a little oversize or the people at Winchester might make the slug a little undersize.


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 Post subject: Re: H&R Topper Jr. Model 480
PostPosted: Wed May 30, 2012 3:08 pm 
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AFAIK, all factory loads with Foster-type slugs are undersize for the bore/gauge - why Ithaca bored their Deerslayers undersize to make them so accurate with the slugs.

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 Post subject: Re: H&R Topper Jr. Model 480
PostPosted: Wed May 30, 2012 6:24 pm 
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For once, I guessed right.


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 Post subject: Re: H&R Topper Jr. Model 480
PostPosted: Sat Jun 02, 2012 10:57 pm 
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I took the same foster slug inserted it in my 20 gauge modified Remchoke tube and it stops about 3/4" from the muzzle, with the improved cylinder tube I can push the slug through with just a little drag.


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