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 Post subject: Champion Iver Johnson 12 gauge single shot shotgun
PostPosted: Sun Jun 03, 2012 8:34 am 
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Hello,
I have a champion iver johnson 12 gauge single shot shotgun with a serial number with 25584 stamped on the lug and on the barrel side of the metal plate on the forestock, and TGIF stamped behind the trigger guard. It has a crosshatch pattern on the barrel release. It has a 28" barrel. Im really wanting to know the history behind it if avaible the value of it. I'm 19 and I got this from my great grand-father[/list]


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 Post subject: Re: Champion Iver Johnson 12 gauge single shot shotgun
PostPosted: Sun Jun 03, 2012 8:40 am 
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If you got this from your great-grandfather, then it is priceless because of the stories that go along with it. It's not a shooter and is not rare, but should be hung on the wall with respect.

Helpful suggestion? This gun is not worth money. It is worth more than that. Get your GGF to tell you the stories that go along with the gun. Those are worth more than the gun.

My personally addressed autographed Mickey Mantle picture taught me that.

It doesn't have much monetary value and is most valuable to you or your family members.

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 Post subject: Re: Champion Iver Johnson 12 gauge single shot shotgun
PostPosted: Mon Jun 04, 2012 9:27 pm 
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ASFAIK No Iver Johnson's Arms & Cycle Works Champion shotgun has a metal plate on the forearm unless you are talking about the metal parts on the inside of the forearm that attach the forearm to the bottom of the barrel. The crosshatch pattern on the break open lever is called checkering. There is no published serial number-year made tables that I know of for Iver Johnson and sadly our resident expert on these guns Mr. Bill Goforth passed not long ago. Here is some informationI gathered from entries on the internet.
Iver John's Arms & Cycle Works Champion serial numbers:
If made between 1909 and1919——No Letter (alpha) prefix to serial number
If made between 1920 and 1929—-Single letter (alpha) prefix to serial number
If made between 1930 and 1939—-Two letter (alpha) prefix to serial number
If made between 1940 and 1950—Serial number is all alpha characters
TGIF stands for Thank Goodness It's Friday or in pair of Polish shoes, Toes Go In First.


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 Post subject: Re: Champion Iver Johnson 12 gauge single shot shotgun
PostPosted: Wed Mar 20, 2013 6:27 am 
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is the champion 12 gauge and volunteer 12 gauge the same gun if so does that mean mine was made between 1920 and 1929 because it has the numbers a1003755


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 Post subject: Re: Champion Iver Johnson 12 gauge single shot shotgun
PostPosted: Wed Mar 20, 2013 6:21 pm 
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Since your last inquiry, I have come across another serial number-year made table for Iver Johnson made guns. Although the company is out of business and our resident expert, Mr. Bill Goforth has passed and the company never compiled any records, this one compiled by Mr. Joseph Vorisek for his books "The Breech Loading Shotgun In America 1865 to 1940 is the only published one we have. According to the information in that record, your gun was made in 1937. According to information I have compiled over the past thirty five years, VOLUNTEER shotguns were made by one of four makers, Crescent Fire Arms Company, Stevens Arms & Tool Company, Crescent-Davis Arms Corporation, Davis -Warner Arms (these two were the same company by different names) and Iver Johnson's Arms & Cycle Works. Now ,you know everything I do.


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 Post subject: Re: Champion Iver Johnson 12 gauge single shot shotgun
PostPosted: Wed Mar 20, 2013 7:50 pm 
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drewb916 wrote:
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Hello,
I have a champion iver johnson 12 gauge single shot shotgun with a serial number with 25584 stamped on the lug and on the barrel side of the metal plate on the forestock, and TGIF stamped behind the trigger guard. It has a crosshatch pattern on the barrel release. It has a 28" barrel. Im really wanting to know the history behind it if avaible the value of it. I'm 19 and I got this from my great grand-father[/list]


The 25584 is not the serial number. The TGIF is the serial number.


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 Post subject: Re: Champion Iver Johnson 12 gauge single shot shotgun
PostPosted: Wed Mar 20, 2013 8:44 pm 
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sovblocgunfan wrote:
If you got this from your great-grandfather, then it is priceless because of the stories that go along with it. It's not a shooter and is not rare, but should be hung on the wall with respect.

Helpful suggestion? This gun is not worth money. It is worth more than that. Get your GGF to tell you the stories that go along with the gun. Those are worth more than the gun.

My personally addressed autographed Mickey Mantle picture taught me that.

It doesn't have much monetary value and is most valuable to you or your family members.


I agree with most of the above
comments but if deemed safe it could be a shooter.
(I have 4 I.J. Champions that still get shot occasionally. One is a 16 gauge which came from grandfather to father then to me.)


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 Post subject: Re: Champion Iver Johnson 12 gauge single shot shotgun
PostPosted: Thu Mar 21, 2013 12:23 am 
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The information I have comes from reconstructed information from various sources and lists no alpha serial numbers. However the information does say that an Iver Johnson serial number with all letter (alpha) characters was made between 1940 and 1950. As with any old single barrel inexpensive shotgun, the value is going to depend on the guns condition. I have to tell you right now. it ain't going to pay your college tuition or for your retirement. The current value will depend on the guns condition, the amount of original finish remaining on the metal and wood as well as the mechanical condition. A prime condition example (rare as these guns were used hard and received little care or maintenance) that appears to have come out of the factory yesterday afternoon might bring $100 at auction while a rusty and pitted metal, rotten or broken wood and missing parts piece of junk fit only for parts salvage or as a tomato plant stake might fetch maybe $25. Value will differ slightly with gauges with a 16 gauge being the lowest followed by a 12 gauge and a .410 bore being the highest value. A shotgun made between 1940 and 1950 will be considered fairly modern and should be chambered for 2 3/4 inch shells.


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