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 Post subject: savage/stevens o/u
PostPosted: Fri Jul 06, 2012 7:11 pm 
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Any opinions on the Savage/Stevens 512 Gold Wing import 12ga O/u 28"? These sell for about$550. thanks Denny


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 06, 2012 7:19 pm 
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Try the search option. This gun has been discussed ad nauseum. I bought the 28 gauge, broke both firing pins, replaced them, and it is now deep in the back of my safe. Mark

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 Post subject: Re: savage/stevens o/u
PostPosted: Fri Jul 06, 2012 7:21 pm 
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Thanks.


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 Post subject: Re: savage/stevens o/u
PostPosted: Fri Jul 06, 2012 7:28 pm 
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Not a very good gun. Really crappy trigger. Hard to open and close. Do yourself a favor and don't but one
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 Post subject: Re: savage/stevens o/u
PostPosted: Fri Jul 06, 2012 10:23 pm 
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The word on them is that the metal in the reciever is too soft which is why they keep breaking fireing pins. The aint no fix for that.
In that price range, a CZ canvasback is a lot better gun.

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 Post subject: Re: savage/stevens o/u
PostPosted: Sat Jul 07, 2012 6:14 am 
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Junk. So is the CZ, Baikal, Mossberg Silver Reserve, and any other O/U available for a "bargain" price.

Buy a used Browning, Beretta, or SKB.

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 07, 2012 7:11 am 
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There is no free lunch in the O/U market. Good guns cost good money. Sometimes you can find a used Browning or SKB for around $800, that is the starting point.

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RUN! :twisted:


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 Post subject: Re: savage/stevens o/u
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I own one, never had a problem yet, I have one in 12 gauge, I use it for duck and goose, I have had good success in the field with it. I'm happy with mine. I believe I have about 1,100 rounds through mine, I use it for clays too, or as a loaner.

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 Post subject: Re: savage/stevens o/u
PostPosted: Sun Jul 08, 2012 8:44 am 
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andromeda673 wrote:
I own one, never had a problem yet, I have one in 12 gauge, I use it for duck and goose, I have had good success in the field with it. I'm happy with mine. I believe I have about 1,100 rounds (this round count is virtually nothing - some of us shoot this much weekly) through mine, I use it for clays too, or as a loaner.


I'm glad yours is working so far, but the longevity just isn't there. Pound that gun with some more targets and it will fail.


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 Post subject: Re: savage/stevens o/u
PostPosted: Sun Jul 08, 2012 1:52 pm 
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andromeda673 wrote:
I own one, never had a problem yet, I have one in 12 gauge, I use it for duck and goose, I have had good success in the field with it. I'm happy with mine. I believe I have about 1,100 rounds (this round count is virtually nothing - some of us shoot this much weekly) through mine, I use it for clays too, or as a loaner.


I'm glad yours is working so far, but the longevity just isn't there. Pound that gun with some more targets and it will fail.


did you fire up your crystal ball before you posted that? and maybe can you give me the exact day and time so that when I'm duck hunting I can be prepared to have a extra gun with me :roll:

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 Post subject: Re: savage/stevens o/u
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gunnysgt68 wrote:
Any opinions on the Savage/Stevens 512 Gold Wing import 12ga O/u 28"? These sell for about$550. thanks Denny


Denny.....

Ignore the bashers for the moment. Instead, tell us what you are going to use the gun for and an HONEST estimation of how many rounds you think you will shoot through it in a year.

There ARE O/U guns in your general price range that *might* be suitable but that will depend on how much you are likely to shoot the gun.

There ARE plenty of people here with considerable knowledge about "budget" doubles but it is a tricky market and requires you to provide some real information about your projected use of the gun.

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 Post subject: Re: savage/stevens o/u
PostPosted: Sun Jul 08, 2012 3:18 pm 
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andromeda673 wrote:
SS wrote:
andromeda673 wrote:
I own one, never had a problem yet, I have one in 12 gauge, I use it for duck and goose, I have had good success in the field with it. I'm happy with mine. I believe I have about 1,100 rounds (this round count is virtually nothing - some of us shoot this much weekly) through mine, I use it for clays too, or as a loaner.


I'm glad yours is working so far, but the longevity just isn't there. Pound that gun with some more targets and it will fail.


did you fire up your crystal ball before you posted that? and maybe can you give me the exact day and time so that when I'm duck hunting I can be prepared to have a extra gun with me :roll:


Sooner than later. Depends on how much you shoot it.


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 Post subject: Re: savage/stevens o/u
PostPosted: Sun Jul 08, 2012 3:41 pm 
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Proud to be a: I will use it for duck and geese and maybe a few hundred (maybe) rounds for skeet. That's it. So maybe 400 rds a year. Thanks Denny


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 Post subject: Re: savage/stevens o/u
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Denny:

This particular gun has a somewhat checkered history. A few folks have had them last awhile, others haven't. Your shooting volume is pretty low, so a Savage/Stevens 512 Gold Wing MIGHT work for you, at least for a while. The real issue is are you willing to get into a crapshoot on whether it will last or break? It could work fine for anywhere from two weeks to 3-4 years with the limited shooting volume you will be doing.

Here are a couple of other things to consider. First, because of the reputation these guns have developed, there's not much of a market for used ones. You need to be ready to accept that if you don't like it, you may not be able to sell it easily. Second, even if you find a buyer, the resale value on these guns is pretty poor; I would guess you'd be lucky to get even half of the new value. If you decide to sell it or trade it in on another gun, you won't get much for it. Third, are you willing to risk having a hunting trip cut short because something on the gun broke?

Bottom line: if you are willing to accept some significant risk of the gun failing, and if you are willing to accept that the money you spend on it will be pretty much gone as soon as you take delivery, then this gun will probably work for you.

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 Post subject: Re: savage/stevens o/u
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How about a Silver Reserve or a Legecy Escort? Thanks again. Denny


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How about a Silver Reserve or a Legecy Escort? Thanks again. Denny


Junk, and more junk.

The "no free lunch" rule applies here...

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 Post subject: Re: savage/stevens o/u
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Gunny:

My Stevens 12ga Goldwing O/U broke 2 firing pins on the top barrell before it got retired. Have to make room in my safe so it is the first to go. Try going over to the "Love my Huglu" forum and see what guys like 2daysafew have to say about the CZ O/Us. A lot more objective feedback there regarding the Canvasback, Redhead etc. Personally I love my CZ Redhead O/U!!


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