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 Post subject: Remington 48 vs 11-48
PostPosted: Sat Sep 01, 2012 12:44 pm 
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Can anyone tell me if all parts, or specifically the shoulder (rear) stock is interchangeable between these two models? Are parts still available for either? I'm looking at getting a sportsman 48 and want to know what I'm getting into. Thanks very much for any info!


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 Post subject: Re: Remington 48 vs 11-48
PostPosted: Sat Sep 01, 2012 1:45 pm 
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The 48 was a great gun but due to the complicated recoil mechanism (barrel and bolt slide together) and the availability of parts, I would pass unless you find one in pristine condition and at a great price. I owned a 48 in 16 gauge and wore it smooth out, several trips to Remington did not solve the problems.

I suggest buying a used 1100 or 1148, both great autos for the money, parts/extra barrels and all the accessories are easy to find

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 Post subject: Re: Remington 48 vs 11-48
PostPosted: Sat Sep 01, 2012 2:12 pm 
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I have been wrong before, but this time, is the question......
I think the 11-48 and the Sportsman 48 are virtually the same gun......

I am sure the model 11 is a different dog (a humpback)...but we weren't talking about them were we?

I would contact Remington but first Id contact Gun parts inc......I have a Sportsman 48 and as far as I know the buttstock is available from "Gun Parts Inc." (Numrich) [866-686-7424] Kingston, NY..........if one of anything for that gun exists.....they probably have it
I could be wrong but It is my understanding there are lots n lots of parts available for these guns.....

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 Post subject: Re: Remington 48 vs 11-48
PostPosted: Sat Sep 01, 2012 5:25 pm 
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I checked numrich and didn't see anything. The shotgun is from a friend and for my dad, but the stock is cracked. There is an auction for a stock for an 11-48 ending soon but I don't know whether I should bid or not. It's the only one I've found so I don't want to pass it up if it's the right one.


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 Post subject: Re: Remington 48 vs 11-48
PostPosted: Sat Sep 01, 2012 5:25 pm 
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I checked numrich and didn't see anything. The shotgun is from a friend and for my dad, but the stock is cracked. There is an auction for a stock for an 11-48 ending soon but I don't know whether I should bid or not. It's the only one I've found so I don't want to pass it up if it's the right one.


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 Post subject: Re: Remington 48 vs 11-48
PostPosted: Sat Sep 01, 2012 6:16 pm 
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Surprising that Numrich has nothing .

I've never dealt with this place , but they seem to have a lot of parts for old/older shotguns .
Anyone have any experience with Bobs Gun Parts ?
http://www.gun-parts.com/remingtonshotgun/


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 Post subject: Re: Remington 48 vs 11-48
PostPosted: Sat Sep 01, 2012 7:31 pm 
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Remington says the Sportsman 48 is a "3-shot version of the Model 11-48 autoloading shotgun"

http://www.remington.com/products/archi ... an-48.aspx


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 Post subject: Re: Remington 48 vs 11-48
PostPosted: Sat Sep 01, 2012 7:59 pm 
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The '48 shotguns that I own are among my favorites. With that said, I believe that shooting one until it did not function, would be akin to shooting an A-5 to death... That would take LOTS of shooting IMHO.

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 Post subject: Re: Remington 48 vs 11-48
PostPosted: Sat Sep 01, 2012 8:22 pm 
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IMHO the 1148 and Sportsman 48 were the two best handling semi autos Remington ever made. They have also gone up invalue around here too. Even after all these years it sees folks still love them.

As to the stock if you cannot get one, and this one is beyond repair, an 870 stock will fit. It may take a little sanding here and there but nothing that requires any real woodworking skill.


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 Post subject: Re: Remington 48 vs 11-48
PostPosted: Sat Sep 01, 2012 8:28 pm 
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Colonel26 wrote:
As to the stock if you cannot get one, and this one is beyond repair, an 870 stock will fit. It may take a little sanding here and there but nothing that requires any real woodworking skill.


What about the area where the "tail" on the back of the bolt needs to travel? The 870 stock wouldn't have that, would it?


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 Post subject: Re: Remington 48 vs 11-48
PostPosted: Sat Sep 01, 2012 10:37 pm 
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If you're talking about the recoil spring, remember that it is around the magazine, not in the stock on a long recoil action. One of dad's had a busted stock, and until he could get it fixed we used an extra one off of an 870. Like I said it may require the least little bit of sanding but it will work.


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 Post subject: Re: Remington 48 vs 11-48
PostPosted: Sat Sep 01, 2012 11:46 pm 
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The difference between an 11-48 and the Sportsman 48 was simply and only marketing and a few cosmetic differences, including a some "dimples" in the Sportsman magazine to limit it to only two shells.

The 48's are the best under $200 shotguns in the pawn shop. Light, wonderfully handling, reliable, and durable, they cost more than 870's in their day, and were worth it.

Stick a cheap 870 stock on the thing. Who will know, and who would care? The forend is the weak link, as it is with all long recoil operated shotguns. Keep the magazine screw tight and it will minimize forend cracking.

You could wear out an 48, but it would take a carload of shells to do it. Most of those guns belonged to hunters who didn't shoot but a few boxes of shells every year, and every one I've ever got ahold of had very little finish on the stocks and forend, and several more lifetimes of use left in the gun underneath all that.


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 Post subject: Re: Remington 48 vs 11-48
PostPosted: Sat Sep 01, 2012 11:49 pm 
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In regards to dealing with Numrich......looking at their on line catalogue would seem to be the end all.....it is not.....call during regular business hours, and although the nice ladies are not gun smiths they are quite knowledgeable........as the Colonel says, the 870 stock probably could be easily modified to fit....the same might be true for an 1100 stock.....As I said in the beginning, TALK, to Numrich about whether they have a suitable stock.....confer with Remington also.........Remington is notorious for often using new stuff that is peculiarly similar to their old stuff.......I've got a model 58 wearing a new 1100 stock rather than it's old 870 stock.....and a 1948 model 31 with a 2009 870 slide wood....
It's my understanding that 48s or 11-48s should last several lifetimes......
putting that gun together to work like you want....this is the fun part :lol: .....Art

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 Post subject: Re: Remington 48 vs 11-48
PostPosted: Sun Sep 02, 2012 11:05 am 
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Some wrong information here. Yeas the 48 and 11-48 are the same gun, The guns are long recoil action , the same as the A-5 and Rem model 11. The action spring is in the stock. As far as stocks, a sock from models 1100, 58, 870 and 11-87 will fit.
In 1949 when they were introduced they had the reversible ring over the magazine for light or heavy loads. Then the changed the spring into what is called a compensating spring and did away with the reversible ring.
i have both 12 gauge and 16 gauge in 11-48's. They are a dependable and very easy gun to maintain.

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 Post subject: Re: Remington 48 vs 11-48
PostPosted: Sun Sep 02, 2012 7:37 pm 
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oldhunter1 wrote:
Some wrong information here. Yeas the 48 and 11-48 are the same gun, The guns are long recoil action , the same as the A-5 and Rem model 11. The action spring is in the stock. As far as stocks, a sock from models 1100, 58, 870 and 11-87 will fit.
In 1949 when they were introduced they had the reversible ring over the magazine for light or heavy loads. Then the changed the spring into what is called a compensating spring and did away with the reversible ring.
i have both 12 gauge and 16 gauge in 11-48's. They are a dependable and very easy gun to maintain.

I went to Numrich site, The 11-48 is listed and has a schematic, the 48 is listed with no schematic, the 1148 is listed in the 1 numbers while the 48 is almost the last one listed. The bolt parts all I took the time to look at are the same by part number.

Butstocks should be 1100 1187 to fit the 1148 or 48, all have a spring referred to as "ACTION SPRING" in the butstock, the action spring tube is what the stock anchors with.

The 870(no action spring), 878 and 1158 the action spring is part of the Magizine tube assembly.

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 Post subject: Re: Remington 48 vs 11-48
PostPosted: Sun Sep 02, 2012 9:36 pm 
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The stocks all are mounted to the gun the same and will work. The only difference between the 48 and 11-48 is a crimp in the magazine to limit the model 48 to two shells in the magazine. I have worked on or owned every model made except for a 28 gauge.

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 Post subject: Re: Remington 48 vs 11-48
PostPosted: Sun Sep 02, 2012 9:44 pm 
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How does the 870 stock accommodate the tail on the back of the bolt of the 48? Does anyone have a stock for an 870 and a 48/1100 that they can post a comparison (the face of the stock that attaches to the gun)?


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 Post subject: Re: Remington 48 vs 11-48
PostPosted: Mon Sep 03, 2012 12:23 pm 
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Just go out to gunbroker and check the pictures and you will see that the stocks are all the same on the front end They all have the same hole in the stock to mount to the receiver. On some you may have to drill the hole a little deeper. On my 11-48's I had to work to different stocks to set the gun with some castoff. I didn't want to use the original so on the 16 gauge I ended up using a stock from an 870 and on the 12 gauge I used a stock from an 11-87.
On the 11-48's the 16 gauge stock is a little smaller then the 12 gauge where it fits to the receiver.
The one thing about the original stocks from the 11-48's, most of them have an extra hole in the stock which makes them a little lighter.

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 Post subject: Re: Remington 48 vs 11-48
PostPosted: Mon Sep 03, 2012 2:46 pm 
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oldhunter1 wrote:
Just go out to gunbroker and check the pictures and you will see that the stocks are all the same on the front end They all have the same hole in the stock to mount to the receiver. On some you may have to drill the hole a little deeper. On my 11-48's I had to work to different stocks to set the gun with some castoff. I didn't want to use the original so on the 16 gauge I ended up using a stock from an 870 and on the 12 gauge I used a stock from an 11-87.
On the 11-48's the 16 gauge stock is a little smaller then the 12 gauge where it fits to the receiver.
The one thing about the original stocks from the 11-48's, most of them have an extra hole in the stock which makes them a little lighter.


All 870, 1100. etc., stocks should work as oldhunter states in the correct frame size. The difference is the depth of the bolt holes, so you either have to drill out certain stock's bolt holes or get the correct bolt.


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 Post subject: Re: Remington 48 vs 11-48
PostPosted: Mon Sep 03, 2012 8:57 pm 
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There is no Remington "48" . There is an 11-48, Sportsman 48, and Mohawk 48.
I have owned all of them of various gauges. The Sportsman is different in that it is a 3 shot, 1 in the chamber and 2 in the mag. Parts of sames gauge are interchangeable. Mag extension from 870 will fit an 11-48.

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