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 Post subject: MEC Automate
PostPosted: Sun Oct 14, 2012 9:55 am 
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Any thoughts on the Automate ? Looking to speed up the reloading process. Would the hydrolic system be better ? Pros / Cons ?
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 Post subject: Re: MEC Automate
PostPosted: Sun Oct 14, 2012 10:06 am 
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I have an Automate, I love it. It is silent when between operations and will never leak or smell of oil. The same cannot be said of the Hydraulic unit. You can convert an existing progressive to the Automate. You cannot convert that same press to operate hydraulically without exorbitant cost.

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 Post subject: Re: MEC Automate
PostPosted: Sun Oct 14, 2012 12:47 pm 
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Thank you, Curly.
I understand that the Grabber can be converted for use with the Automate. Assuming that I don't have many tools or knowledge of adjusting the presses ( I have four like new Grabbers ) how big or complicated is the process ? Should I just send the presses to MEC and have them converted and purchase the Automate ? This way I could switch gauges ?
Four presses : 12,20,28,.410 all working off the one Automate ? Or would it be better to start over with four 9000's and the Automate ( very expensive ! ).
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 Post subject: Re: MEC Automate
PostPosted: Sun Oct 14, 2012 1:18 pm 
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Jim Hundley wrote:
Thank you, Curly.
I understand that the Grabber can be converted for use with the Automate. Assuming that I don't have many tools or knowledge of adjusting the presses ( I have four like new Grabbers ) how big or complicated is the process ? Should I just send the presses to MEC and have them converted and purchase the Automate ? This way I could switch gauges ?
Four presses : 12,20,28,.410 all working off the one Automate ? Or would it be better to start over with four 9000's and the Automate ( very expensive ! ).
Thanks for any advice.
Jim


I have 4 presses that I converted from 9000G to a unit suitable for the Automate. The same kit works for the Grabbers, especially the newest ones. I have one Automate unit and presses can be swapped in less than a minute.
Conversion of the presses amounts to removing the handles and replacing them with Automate linkage. Not a complicated procedure. If you can handle a pair of 7/16 wrenches, you are good to go.

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 Post subject: Re: MEC Automate
PostPosted: Sun Oct 14, 2012 1:19 pm 
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Buy the conversion kit for each of your Grabbers if that is the loader you like. When I got my Automate, I had two Grabbers and two 9000G's. I converted both 9000's but only 1 Grabber as one I have is a 761R that has a base that doesn't fit the Automate. Subsequently, I got a good deal on another 9000G. I just took the hardware from the Grabber, slapped it on the 9000G and away I went. You don't need a lot of tools or expertise. Just follow the instructions that comes with the Automate and you'll get it done.


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 Post subject: Re: MEC Automate
PostPosted: Sun Oct 14, 2012 1:27 pm 
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Thanks to all. I should have purchased the 9000 in the beginning, but since I have the Grabbers will have to go with them. I will check out the costs for the four conversion kits and the Automate and go from there.
One more question : Will the conversions to the Automate speed up the loading process or am I just eliminating " pulling the handle " ?
Jim


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 Post subject: Re: MEC Automate
PostPosted: Sun Oct 14, 2012 2:07 pm 
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It might be alittle faster running the Automate but for the most part all you are doing is
eliminating pulling the handle.


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 Post subject: Re: MEC Automate
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Steve Y wrote:
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It might be alittle faster running the Automate but for the most part all you are doing is
eliminating pulling the handle.


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It is my opinion that you cannot pull the handle as smoothly and as fast as the Automate does it for you. If you try to match the speed of the Automate, you will have issues.

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 Post subject: Re: MEC Automate
PostPosted: Sun Oct 14, 2012 3:17 pm 
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What Curly said is very important,the Automate is smooth and fast,a human is one or the other
but never both at the same time.


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 Post subject: Re: MEC Automate
PostPosted: Sun Oct 14, 2012 4:26 pm 
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If you were me, would you guys convert to the Automate ?
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 Post subject: Re: MEC Automate
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Jim Hundley wrote:
If you were me, would you guys convert to the Automate ?
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Heck yes and I'm one who had issues getting everything going on the first conversion. Not pulling the handle is important to an old guy like me.


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 Post subject: Re: MEC Automate
PostPosted: Sun Oct 14, 2012 6:35 pm 
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I am in the same boat ! That handle gets old !
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 Post subject: Re: MEC Automate
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I converted 4 machines years ago ( before MEC bought the rights) and have never looked back.


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If it was me I'd sell the Grabbers and buy new 9000's. I know it's expensive but man they sure are nice

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 Post subject: Re: MEC Automate
PostPosted: Sun Oct 14, 2012 9:43 pm 
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Thanks everybody ! A lot of good advice. I really appreciate it.
Jim


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