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 Post subject: Re: Franchi affinity or Beretta A300 ??
PostPosted: Sun Dec 30, 2012 8:04 am 
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You heard wrong. The A300 Outlander has the 390/3901/391-type receiver and action (receiver internal parts), with the A400-type gas system.



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 Post subject: Re: Franchi affinity or Beretta A300 ??
PostPosted: Mon Dec 31, 2012 3:40 am 
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Seamus O'Caiside wrote:
You heard wrong. The A300 Outlander has the 390/3901/391-type receiver and action (receiver internal parts), with the A400-type gas system.


Very good to know ... thanks so much for the clarification on that! :)

Do you know of any sites or walkthroughs that show how to disassemble and clean the A300?

I am getting it out of jail next week and I hear it oil and greased to no end and is recommended to tear down and clean before shooting.

Any help on this would be great.

Maybe since the A300 is like the 3901/390/391 there is a good thread for one of those guns that will basically be exactly the same as the A300.

Thanks again for all the help. :)


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 Post subject: Re: Franchi affinity or Beretta A300 ??
PostPosted: Mon Dec 31, 2012 7:07 pm 
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There is not really that much greese or oil in it. The breakdown is just like the 390 except the gas valve/spring cannot be removed. You will also need to be carefull to squueze the little ring with teeth on it and insert it along with the piston into the thingy on the barrel. Then slide the barrel onto the mag tube. The instructions show all this pretty well.

I had a 3901 just sold it. .Never an a400 or 391... It says specifically on the website that the gas system is bassed on the 391 and reciever a400. Comparing recievers it is exactly like the 3901 except it is 1/4 inch shorter and more rounded on the bottom edges.

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 Post subject: Re: Franchi affinity or Beretta A300 ??
PostPosted: Tue Jan 01, 2013 3:40 am 
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stockranger wrote:
There is not really that much greese or oil in it. The breakdown is just like the 390 except the gas valve/spring cannot be removed. You will also need to be carefull to squueze the little ring with teeth on it and insert it along with the piston into the thingy on the barrel. Then slide the barrel onto the mag tube. The instructions show all this pretty well.

I had a 3901 just sold it. .Never an a400 or 391... It says specifically on the website that the gas system is bassed on the 391 and reciever a400. Comparing recievers it is exactly like the 3901 except it is 1/4 inch shorter and more rounded on the bottom edges.


Is there any walkthroughs or breakdown videos on the 391 to give me an idea?

Would like to get it cleaned up a tad bit before the first outing.

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 Post subject: Re: Franchi affinity or Beretta A300 ??
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Seamus O'Caiside wrote:
You heard wrong. The A300 Outlander has the 390/3901/391-type receiver and action (receiver internal parts), with the A400-type gas system.


Just wanted to clarify here .... did they make a mistake on these videos? Both of these guys from Beretta said the Gas System is based on the 391 (see videos on them saying this below)

Just wanting to clarify this if possible.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VTIGeoZ82FY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cdXwcB6S_5s


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 Post subject: Re: Franchi affinity or Beretta A300 ??
PostPosted: Thu Jan 03, 2013 4:34 am 
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Give Brian a break. He's a Remington guy, so give him a while to learn the line. Being "based" on something is an empty statement. It is a different model.

Beretta has a knack for confusion, as in the A391 Xtrema 2. Would it help to say the A391 Xtrema 2 was the basis for the A400 and the A300?

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 Post subject: Re: Franchi affinity or Beretta A300 ??
PostPosted: Tue Aug 13, 2013 3:43 pm 
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This is a great thread and I am comparing the Franchi Affinity and Beretta A300 Outlander to eachother as possibly my next waterfowl gun. I am interested in a 12g, 28" barrel with Max-4 camo and will be using it for ducks and geese.

Can we agree on a drop at comb and heel as well as length of pull for each gun? The specs are very hard to find for the Beretta A300 Outlander. I do well with specs like a remington 870 wingmaster which has 1.5" DAC and 2.5" DAH with just over 14" LOP, I could do 14 3/8". I am 6'1" 220 LBS with a longish neck and long face. Thanks


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 Post subject: Re: Franchi affinity or Beretta A300 ??
PostPosted: Tue Aug 13, 2013 4:27 pm 
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Max-4 wrote:
This is a great thread and I am comparing the Franchi Affinity and Beretta A300 Outlander to eachother as possibly my next waterfowl gun. I am interested in a 12g, 28" barrel with Max-4 camo and will be using it for ducks and geese.

Can we agree on a drop at comb and heel as well as length of pull for each gun? The specs are very hard to find for the Beretta A300 Outlander. I do well with specs like a remington 870 wingmaster which has 1.5" DAC and 2.5" DAH with just over 14" LOP, I could do 14 3/8". I am 6'1" 220 LBS with a longish neck and long face. Thanks


LOP I can help you with... The synthetic with no spacers, it is 13" from trigger to end of the stock, and the butt pad adds about 1/2". It comes with a 1" spacer and a 1/2" spacer. Out of the box, the 1" spacer is already installed.

DAC measures 1 1/2" out of the box, DAH looks to be about 2 1/2", measured with the 1" spacer installed. These are by my tape measure, not documented specs.


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 Post subject: Re: Franchi affinity or Beretta A300 ??
PostPosted: Tue Aug 13, 2013 7:27 pm 
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In this video the guy says the A300 comes out of the box with 1.25" DAC and 2.25 DAH and he says you can adjust it 1/8th".

Hmmm does this seem right? I guess I could only drop it 1/8" from that?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5GoGZoRwgaU


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 Post subject: Re: Franchi affinity or Beretta A300 ??
PostPosted: Tue Aug 13, 2013 8:33 pm 
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That probably is about right. When measuring the DAH, I wasn't sure if I should measure from the end of the stock, or the end of the spacer right before the recoil pad. At the end of the stock, before the spacer, it was 2 1/4". DAC looked to be 1 1/2".... guess I can pull it back out and re-measure. Maybe I should measure my wood stocked one too.


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 Post subject: Re: Franchi affinity or Beretta A300 ??
PostPosted: Tue Aug 13, 2013 9:00 pm 
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Just reconfirmed my measurements, DAC was 1 1/2", DAH was 2 1/2" on both my son's synthetic and my wood stocked Outlander. LOP on my wood stocked Outlander is 14 1/2" from trigger to end of stock, to include recoil pad. These are straight out of the box, no adjustments made.


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 Post subject: Re: Franchi affinity or Beretta A300 ??
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So the spec for the drop of each gun are as follows:

Beretta A300 Outlander: 1.25" DAC and 2.25" DAH adjustable 1/8"

Franchi Affinity: 1.5" DAC and 2"-2.5" adjustable DAH (what do the shims say, how much does each shim drop)? Wonder why the heel can drop 1/2" but not the comb?


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 Post subject: Re: Franchi affinity or Beretta A300 ??
PostPosted: Tue Aug 13, 2013 9:11 pm 
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Max-4 wrote:
So the spec for the drop of each gun are as follows:

Beretta A300 Outlander: 1.25" DAC and 2.25" DAH adjustable 1/8"


My measurements were for the Outlander. I saw what the marketing guy said, but that isn't what the tape measure said. I'll check to see if the manual states anything....


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 Post subject: Re: Franchi affinity or Beretta A300 ??
PostPosted: Tue Aug 13, 2013 9:22 pm 
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On page 29 of the manual for the A300 Outlander, it states "The Beretta semi-automatic A300 Outlander has a pre-set factory stock cast-off setting (for right handed shooters) with a 55 or 60 mm drop.

55mm = 2.16535 inches
60mm = 2.3622 inches




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