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 Post subject: New Browning A5 issue
PostPosted: Tue Jan 01, 2013 4:35 pm 
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First off, hey everyone new to the forum. Got a new browning A5 about 2 months ago. Started out working perfectly but now it wants to Jam with 3" steel loads only. Been shot less than 200 times. It jams like its trying to load the next shell before the shot shell has had a chance to be thrown out. 2/3 4" low brass and 3" buckshot work perfect. Coming from a SBE II that's never had a malfunction in 6 yrs I don't like jams!. Any ideas? To much lube, not enough? Not broken in yet? Any help appreciated!


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 Post subject: Re: New Browning A5 issue
PostPosted: Wed Jan 02, 2013 4:50 pm 
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Above and beyond any potential cleaning/lube issues would possibly be the hulls swelling enough to make them difficult to extract. I'd remove the barrel and take one or more of the empties that jammed and see if they will or will not slide into the chamber easily. If they don't insert and remove with minimal effort you might have a bad batch of ammo or a cheaper brand with less than optimum hulls.

If this isn't the problem you might double check the initial cleaning to make sure all of the factory shipping lube has been removed then use a proper amount of good lubricant on the slides & bolt assembly. The factory stuff is very viscous and gooey making it difficult for the gun to cycle. Mine came with very little and is easily removed then reassemble with the proper amount of good lubricant (I use a small dab of Tetra Gun Grease on my bolt/slides with zero problems). They don't have to be run very wet but some lube is always a good thing to make 'em run smoothly and without hiccups.

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 Post subject: Re: New Browning A5 issue
PostPosted: Wed Jan 02, 2013 6:46 pm 
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What brand of ammo are you using? That was my initial thought.


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 Post subject: Re: New Browning A5 issue
PostPosted: Wed Jan 02, 2013 8:03 pm 
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Winchester xpert, winchester drylok, and kent fast steel have all jammed.


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 Post subject: Re: New Browning A5 issue
PostPosted: Wed Jan 02, 2013 8:15 pm 
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So ammo is probably not the issue. Did it function with these loads at one time then something seemed to change? I'm not trying to ask stupid questions, just trying to wrap my mind around what might be going on.


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 Post subject: Re: New Browning A5 issue
PostPosted: Wed Jan 02, 2013 8:59 pm 
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It functions fine probably 75% of the time. Perfect with low brass or buckshot. I don't get it.


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 Post subject: Re: New Browning A5 issue
PostPosted: Wed Jan 02, 2013 9:41 pm 
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Weird... Might we worth a call to Browning. Please keep us posted. I have two of the new A5 and will be watching for any similar issue. So far mine have been flawless. Good luck!


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 Post subject: Re: New Browning A5 issue
PostPosted: Thu Jan 03, 2013 9:36 am 
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May not be the problem, but make sure that your gun mount is firm. You're shooting steel, so I imagine you are waterfowling and wearing multiple layers of clothes, which can cause poor gun mount and/or soft gun mount.


Have you tried shooting it while not hunting? Just a thought that sometimes gets missed.

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 Post subject: Re: New Browning A5 issue
PostPosted: Fri Jan 04, 2013 10:28 pm 
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Jwrong83 wrote:
Winchester xpert, winchester drylok, and kent fast steel have all jammed.
I've had the exact same issue. Crazy, crazy.

In my gun, the only ammunition that has failed to eject has been Kent's Fasteel. Everything else has been fine ... so far. I would say in a box of 25 shells, 3 would fail to eject. Along with numerous other loads, I've shot three boxes of Kent's FS, and each box had the same 3 or 4 that would FTE.

There is also a lot of chipping around the edge of the receiver where the shell ejects. Not a big deal, just annoying. It's a new gun and it's all chipped up from the shells being ejected.


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 Post subject: Re: New Browning A5 issue
PostPosted: Sat Jan 05, 2013 9:32 am 
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I've tried shooting it in the yard, again perfect with low brass. 3" steel shot jams 25% of the time. Picked up some Rio Blue Steel which also jammed. COULD this be the gun just needs more shooting? Or should I send it back? I'm about ready to get a refund. Also having the same chipping issue around the ejection port.


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 Post subject: Re: New Browning A5 issue
PostPosted: Sat Jan 05, 2013 10:02 am 
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Simon Leopold wrote:
Jwrong83 wrote:
Winchester xpert, winchester drylok, and kent fast steel have all jammed.
I've had the exact same issue. Crazy, crazy.

In my gun, the only ammunition that has failed to eject has been Kent's Fasteel. Everything else has been fine ... so far. I would say in a box of 25 shells, 3 would fail to eject. Along with numerous other loads, I've shot three boxes of Kent's FS, and each box had the same 3 or 4 that would FTE.

There is also a lot of chipping around the edge of the receiver where the shell ejects. Not a big deal, just annoying. It's a new gun and it's all chipped up from the shells being ejected.



What steel load are you shooting that's ejecting properly?


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 Post subject: Re: New Browning A5 issue
PostPosted: Sat Jan 05, 2013 12:14 pm 
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Jwrong83 wrote:
Simon Leopold wrote:
In my gun, the only ammunition that has failed to eject has been Kent's Fasteel. Everything else has been fine ... so far. I would say in a box of 25 shells, 3 would fail to eject. Along with numerous other loads, I've shot three boxes of Kent's FS, and each box had the same 3 or 4 that would FTE.
What steel load are you shooting that's ejecting properly?
1. Kent Tungsten Matrix, 3" 1350fps 1-1/2 oz. #3
2. Winchester Super X, 3" 1550fps 1-1/8 oz. #4
3. Winchester Super X, 3" 1400fps 1-1/4 oz. #4
4. Federal Black Cloud, 3" 1450fps 1-1/4 oz. #3
5. Remington HyperSonic, 3" 1700fps 1-1/8 oz. #4

I think this is everything I've used so far with the exception of Kent Fasteel, 3" 1425fps 1-1/4 oz. #1 and #2.


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 Post subject: Re: New Browning A5 issue
PostPosted: Sat Jan 05, 2013 12:17 pm 
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Jwrong83 wrote:
Also having the same chipping issue around the ejection port.
Not sure why this is happening to both of our guns. My chipping isn't severe by any means. It's just annoying. It doesn't do anything to the function of the gun; it just doesn't look as good anymore. I'm not sure what Browning would or could do about it. I'm not entirely displeased, just a little perturbed.


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 Post subject: Re: New Browning A5 issue
PostPosted: Sat Jan 05, 2013 1:22 pm 
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Simon Leopold wrote:
Jwrong83 wrote:
Simon Leopold wrote:
In my gun, the only ammunition that has failed to eject has been Kent's Fasteel. Everything else has been fine ... so far. I would say in a box of 25 shells, 3 would fail to eject. Along with numerous other loads, I've shot three boxes of Kent's FS, and each box had the same 3 or 4 that would FTE.
What steel load are you shooting that's ejecting properly?
1. Kent Tungsten Matrix, 3" 1350fps 1-1/2 oz. #3
2. Winchester Super X, 3" 1550fps 1-1/8 oz. #4
3. Winchester Super X, 3" 1400fps 1-1/4 oz. #4
4. Federal Black Cloud, 3" 1450fps 1-1/4 oz. #3
5. Remington HyperSonic, 3" 1700fps 1-1/8 oz. #4

I think this is everything I've used so far with the exception of Kent Fasteel, 3" 1425fps 1-1/4 oz. #1 and #2.


Well let me ask you this, when you manually eject a shell from the chamber by hand does the shell fly out or just kind of fall out? My gun the shell just barely comes out unless a shell is on the shell carrier and then if I manually eject the shell it will fly across the yard.


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 Post subject: Re: New Browning A5 issue
PostPosted: Sat Jan 05, 2013 3:28 pm 
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Jwrong83 wrote:
Well let me ask you this, when you manually eject a shell from the chamber by hand does the shell fly out or just kind of fall out? My gun the shell just barely comes out unless a shell is on the shell carrier and then if I manually eject the shell it will fly across the yard.
Yes and yes. When a shell is sitting in the chamber (without a shell in the magazine or on the carrier), if I manually eject that chambered shell, it somewhat falls out. I wouldn't say it just falls, but it doesn't eject with incredible force either. When there is a shell in the chamber (with a shell in the magazine or on the carrier), if I manually eject that chambered shell, then that shell is ejected with much more force. Why? I haven't the slightest clue! Does it bother me? No. If it did, I would have a gunsmith look at it.

I don't mean to offend. Heaven knows that's not the case. But if you have a lemon, get it fixed. If you don't have a lemon, then tweak it a little to your liking . . . and then be happy.


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 Post subject: Re: New Browning A5 issue
PostPosted: Mon Jan 07, 2013 11:22 am 
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Simon Leopold wrote:
But to answer your question: Yes and yes. When a shell is sitting in the chamber (without a shell in the magazine or on the carrier), if I manually eject that chambered shell, it somewhat falls out. I wouldn't say it just falls, but it doesn't eject with incredible force either. When there is a shell in the chamber (with a shell in the magazine or on the carrier), if I manually eject that chambered shell, then that shell is ejected with much more force. Why? I haven't the slightest clue! Does it bother me? No. If it did, I would have a gunsmith look at it.



So I tested mine out and it does the same thing. I'm going to guess it has something to do with the fact that the action stays open after you fire your last round and that is why you see a difference.

Saying that, I've had no problems at all with my A5 with about 400 to 500 rounds through it so far.


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