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 Post subject: 1100 vs 1187
PostPosted: Wed Nov 24, 2004 3:42 pm 
Hi everybody!
I am having difficulties deciding what gun to buy. I tried out a Remington 11-87 12 gauge, and liked it a lot, shooting trap and clay targets, but I have been told it is a field gun, and that a Remington 1100 sporting 12 would be a better gun to use. Also, I thought that the 1187s were no longer being made, but I have found them in numerous stores for sale. Which gun would be a better investment? Also, is there a big difference in how these guns shoot, because I have not shot an 1100 yet. Thanks!




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 Post subject: Re: 1100 vs 1187
PostPosted: Wed Nov 24, 2004 4:22 pm 
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I just developed the same dilema yesterday. Look forward to feedback.


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 Post subject: Re: 1100 vs 1187
PostPosted: Wed Nov 24, 2004 7:21 pm 
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Main difference is in the receiver, the 1100 has a 2 3/4" and 1187 3" chambers. If you feel you need the 3" capabilities(hunting) of the 1187 get it, if target is to be your main usage get the 1100. I believe the 1187 is a heavier gun then the 1100, but even at that if I didn't tell you which gun you had in your hands I bet you couldn't tell the difference, their that close! :lol:
:idea: Field guns can and are used for target work by many.


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 Post subject: Re: 1100 vs 1187
PostPosted: Thu Nov 25, 2004 12:16 am 
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Both 11-87s and 1100s are currently being made. All 11-87s are field grade guns. The 1100s are available in either target grade (trap, skeet or sporting) or in "classic field" grade.

Check www.remington.com for details.


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 Post subject: Re: 1100 vs 1187
PostPosted: Thu Nov 25, 2004 7:10 pm 
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Personally I would go with the 11-87 because of its greater all-around versatility. The drawback to the 11-87 WRT the 1100 is that the field barrel will not reliably function the action with very light target loads. At least my field barrel won't reliably function the action of either of my 11-87s with a very light 7/8 ounce target loads. [I have two target-type left-handed 11-87s (trap and skeet) with an extra field barrel that, of course, fits either receiver. The target version 11-87s have been discontinued, although apparently light contour target barrels are still available.]

Anyway, with the light payload 7/8 ounce shotshells, I have to push the velocity up to around 1300 fps and generate about 10,000 psi before the field barrel will reliably cycle the action. With 1 ounce loads, I need to push the velocity to around 1250 fps and also generate pressures in the 10,000 psi region.

With the exception of Winchester promo target loads, more or less standard 1-1/8 ounce loads, even the lighter ones at around 1180 fps, will cycle the action reliably with the field barrel. (Those Winchester promo loads don't work too well even with the target barrels.)


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 Post subject: Re: 1100 vs 1187
PostPosted: Tue Nov 30, 2004 6:39 pm 
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See my post in Trap/Skeet/Sporting Clays. I bought an 11-87 for clay sports, possible coyote control and maybe some ducks someday. Only shot about 5 boxes of ammo, but I love it.

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 Post subject: Re: 1100 vs 1187
PostPosted: Mon Dec 13, 2004 6:48 pm 
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What do you want to do with the gun? I agree with okshotgunner on the versatility aspect of the 11-87. Then you might want to consider how long of a barrel you will want: 24",26",28" or 30". It can get a little confusing, so you should start thinking about how you are going to use the gun.

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 Post subject: Re: 1100 vs 1187
PostPosted: Tue Dec 28, 2004 4:23 pm 
I target shooting is your preference, then do not buy a field gun!!!!! Most all new trap shooters start this way and realise after a short time they made a mistake and have to buy a new trap model!

Field stocks are sloping (comb high to low) so the shooter can locate the proper drop by moving the face forward or back to find the proper drop at comb. Trap stocks are level and aid in correct comb drop on every shot.

Good luck,
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 Post subject: Re: 1100 vs 1187
PostPosted: Tue Dec 28, 2004 6:20 pm 
I have both guns - They are so similar the parts will mostly interchange. If you are only going to do a little upland hunting and mostly target shooting get the target 1100 - because it will handle light loads better. If you are going to do a lot of hunting or any waterfoul hunting, get the 11-87 and shoot 1-1/8 ounce loads for clays and / or look for a Target LIGHT CONTOUR barrel.

All target barrels are not light contour - which means the beautiful balance of the 11-87 is destroyed and you gotta buy a new forearm to fit if you get the heavy barrel.

Both are great guns!!




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