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 Post subject: HERZBERG / B.EBBEKE 16 Gauge / 81cm Damascus Barrel / Info
PostPosted: Thu Jul 11, 2013 12:03 am 
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Hello,

I need any info about my side by side in attached pictures,

It says only HERZBERG and B.EBBEKE on sides.

Stock is broken but I couldnt trust any stock maker around me until now.

Bests,

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 Post subject: Re: HERZBERG / B.EBBEKE 16 Gauge / 81cm Damascus Barrel / I
PostPosted: Thu Jul 11, 2013 5:57 am 
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Can not find much information ofn this maker, there are a couple of pinfire revolvers for sale/auction if you look on Google under the name and a pinfire combination gun referenced at http://forums.nitroexpress.com/showflat ... n=0&page=2.
You probably already know that Herzberg is a small city in the Brandenburg region of Germany and B. Ebbeke (I assume) was a gunmaker of that area.

The gun uses the Lefaucheux 'bolting' mechanism which was probably the earliest drop-down action type. The action, however, has me beat. Are the firing pins internal and the external hammers purely a cocking device ?.

The only set-up I can find that looks kind of similiar was French Patent #9058 awarded to Louis Julien Gastinne in 1853.
Charles Lancaster, of London, England, had some involvement in the further development of this patent and by 1859 was producing similiar guns.

Thats all I can think of at the moment and my apologies if it's of little help. :)


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 Post subject: Re: HERZBERG / B.EBBEKE 16 Gauge / 81cm Damascus Barrel / I
PostPosted: Thu Jul 11, 2013 11:38 pm 
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Firing pin system is internal, connecting to hammers from internal sides.

But something is interesting, there is no any proof mark on this gun.


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 Post subject: Re: HERZBERG / B.EBBEKE 16 Gauge / 81cm Damascus Barrel / I
PostPosted: Fri Jul 12, 2013 1:58 am 
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Prior to 1890 there were no Proof Laws in Germany so the lack of marks would confirm that it is of German manufacture and not an import from Belgium, France, or elsewhere.


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 Post subject: Re: HERZBERG / B.EBBEKE 16 Gauge / 81cm Damascus Barrel / I
PostPosted: Fri Jul 12, 2013 7:48 am 
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From a cursory glance, it looks Austrian-Hungarian - I suspect Lebeda for the moment. Are both tubes rifled? Stoermer, Tanner, etc. and others were staples in the Herzberg gunmaking centre until the late 1870s.

Kind Regards,

Raimey
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 Post subject: Re: HERZBERG / B.EBBEKE 16 Gauge / 81cm Damascus Barrel / I
PostPosted: Wed Jul 17, 2013 8:33 am 
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How about the retractable firing pin variant of Charles Harvey 1793 of 1866 design?

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Raimey
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