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 Post subject: New 28 gauge 600jr or convert MEC sizemaster
PostPosted: Sat Sep 14, 2013 1:09 pm 
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I've been looking for a single stage MEC for 28 gauge. I've found a used sizemaster that I could do a conversion. Total cost would be about the same as buying a new 600jr.

Is the sizemaster worth it or should I just buy a new 600jr?

BTW, I'm in Puyallup, WA. If someone had a press they were looking move in 28 I would be interested.




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 Post subject: Re: New 28 gauge 600jr or convert MEC sizemaster
PostPosted: Sat Sep 14, 2013 3:48 pm 
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The Sizemaster has a better resizing station plus auto primer feed.


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PostPosted: Sat Sep 14, 2013 5:23 pm 
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I converted a 12 gauge to 28 with a kit I found in an old hardware store for $10. kept my older lamp chain auto primer feed and it worked awesome - as long as I kept the hulls segregated - learned the hard way that the Win CF, original AAHS, second gen AAHS and STS hulls are not the same length
Pick a hull and stick with it; once set up the Jr. does a great job

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 Post subject: Re: New 28 gauge 600jr or convert MEC sizemaster
PostPosted: Sat Sep 14, 2013 8:37 pm 
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I prefer the collet resizer but I can't say it's better. If you're going to spend the money just get a 9000GN. It pays for itself only having to pull the handle once for a loaded shell

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 Post subject: Re: New 28 gauge 600jr or convert MEC sizemaster
PostPosted: Sat Sep 14, 2013 9:43 pm 
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I prefer the collet resizer but I can't say it's better. If you're going to spend the money just get a 9000GN. It pays for itself only having to pull the handle once for a loaded shell

+1, I find myself shooting mostly 12 gauge, because that is the only progressive reloader I have. The rest of the gauges are single stage and it takes forever to make shells, compared to the progressive. Mark

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 Post subject: Re: New 28 gauge 600jr or convert MEC sizemaster
PostPosted: Sun Sep 15, 2013 7:13 am 
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The GOOD 28 gauge hulls (Winchester, Remington) have brass bases, and a 600 Jr. with a ring resizer works fine.

A sizemaster is more useful if you use hulls with steel or brass-plated steel bases.

My 28 ga. 600 Jr. has reloaded thousands and thousands of brass based hulls without a whimper. I also do a few "Eurotrash" hulls with steel bases with no problem.

My Sizemaster in 20 ga. does an excellent job on steel-based Rem Gun Clubs, etc.

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I would NOT do a gauge change on an existing Sizemaster. Too much of a hassle and too expensive. If you are sure you would be satisfied with a single stage press, just buy a new 600 Jr and be done with it. I really like the Sizemasters best, but if cost is a problem, then a Jr will do the job. Better yet if you can do it, a Grabber is better yet, as it will double the production rate of any single stage press. In the long run, you will be far better satisfied.

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 Post subject: Re: New 28 gauge 600jr or convert MEC sizemaster
PostPosted: Sun Sep 15, 2013 1:54 pm 
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If you're just shooting 100-150 or so shells (or less) per week, a single-stage press is fine.

If you're up to a few hundred a week, get a progressive. Grabber progressives work fine.

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Gauge change on a 600 or a Sizemaster takes 20 minutes or less. Dialed in.


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 Post subject: Re: New 28 gauge 600jr or convert MEC sizemaster
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smkilcz59 wrote:
Gauge change on a 600 or a Sizemaster takes 20 minutes or less. Dialed in.


I believe you are a bit optimistic there smkilcz59. You can't even change a collet in 20 minutes, let alone do a complete changeover and complete press adjustment.

Please keep your statements realistic and truthful.

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 Post subject: Re: New 28 gauge 600jr or convert MEC sizemaster
PostPosted: Sun Sep 15, 2013 7:59 pm 
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A 9000 runs only about $50 more and then you don't have to rotate it yourself

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 Post subject: Re: New 28 gauge 600jr or convert MEC sizemaster
PostPosted: Sun Sep 15, 2013 8:17 pm 
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I bought a new 28 ga. 600 Jr. two years ago. It came from MECC adjusted for WAA hs 28 hulls. I have loaded thousands of shells and they are beautiful. As long as you aren't going to load 10's of thousands of loads or your time isn't too valuable, a new 600 r. is a good choice.


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 Post subject: Re: New 28 gauge 600jr or convert MEC sizemaster
PostPosted: Mon Sep 16, 2013 12:46 pm 
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just get a new size master and your set. I am loading 28 & 410/"3 and it works fine. When you buy shells for the 28ga get flats of AA shells and at least one of the AASC loads and compar. Then load up which type worked the best. I am still using 20/28 powder but many here say proreach is the best. Will load up some shells to 1250fps which is tops for 20/28 but low to mid for proreach.


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 Post subject: Re: New 28 gauge 600jr or convert MEC sizemaster
PostPosted: Tue Sep 17, 2013 6:15 pm 
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I started out reloading 28 gauge shells with a 600 Jr Mk V. I was shooting 50 to 100 shells a week then and could easily keep up. Then my bride gave me a 9000G for Xmas. I got a die set in 12 gauge to convert the 600 pretty cheap--$40 if I recall correctly. I also bought a 20 and 16 gauge die set at the same time for less than that at an old gun shop. Didn't even have a 16-gauge gun at the time. After a few years, I ended up with four 9000s and now use the 600 only to load .410. After I retire and don't have the money to shoot much, I'll probably go back to shooting 50 shells a week.

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 Post subject: Re: New 28 gauge 600jr or convert MEC sizemaster
PostPosted: Tue Sep 17, 2013 9:18 pm 
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You have got to be kidding me! Really! Loosen the jam nut on the bottom of the press (11/16 nut size), unscrew the current collet and replace with the one you wish to change over to. Screw in, press a shell and measure with calibers. Adjust to the correct circumference, replace jam nut. Done. Actually, the collet replacement takes the shortest amount of time in the entire gauge change operation.


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 Post subject: Re: New 28 gauge 600jr or convert MEC sizemaster
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smkilcz59 wrote:
DL,
You have got to be kidding me! Really! Loosen the jam nut on the bottom of the press (11/16 nut size), unscrew the current collet and replace with the one you wish to change over to. Screw in, press a shell and measure with calibers. Adjust to the correct circumference, replace jam nut. Done. Actually, the collet replacement takes the shortest amount of time in the entire gauge change operation.


Don't believe the changeover is as quick as you state, but I won't argue it further. Not worth the effort.

By the way, that nut you are speaking of is 13/16, not 11/16 as you stated.

Cheers....DLM

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 Post subject: Re: New 28 gauge 600jr or convert MEC sizemaster
PostPosted: Wed Sep 18, 2013 7:39 pm 
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smkilcz59 wrote:
DL,
You have got to be kidding me! Really! Loosen the jam nut on the bottom of the press (11/16 nut size), unscrew the current collet and replace with the one you wish to change over to. Screw in, press a shell and measure with calibers. Adjust to the correct circumference, replace jam nut. Done. Actually, the collet replacement takes the shortest amount of time in the entire gauge change operation.


Don't believe the changeover is as quick as you state, but I won't argue it further. Not worth the effort.

By the way, that nut you are speaking of is 13/16, not 11/16 as you stated.

Cheers....DLM


Was not engaging in arguement, stating fact with respect to the time aspect.


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 Post subject: Re: New 28 gauge 600jr or convert MEC sizemaster
PostPosted: Fri Sep 20, 2013 11:06 am 
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Going to pick up a lightly used 600 jr mark V in 28 Sunday morning!




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