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 Post subject: 42 year old South Dakota cold case solved
PostPosted: Mon Sep 23, 2013 6:44 pm 
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My wife is originally from South Dakota, and the most famous cold case in South Dakota was solved this afternoon, when a 1960 Studebaker was found by a couple of hunters, all four wheels sticking up from Brule Creek, one half mile from where the girls were supposed to go to a party by a gravel pit in 1971. This case and the false allegations and false arrests should be studied by anybody with an interest in justice. Those girls had a wreck within a half a mile of the party they were headed to and for all these years people have been ginning up false tales about what happened. The amount of completely false testimony against a man named David Lykken who was charged with murder in 2007 based on the later discredited testimony of jailhouse snitches is detailed below. Lykken might be guilty of some other crime, but he didn't have one thing to do with the missing girls in 1971.

http://www.keloland.com/newsdetail.cfm/ ... ?id=153591

http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/car- ... d-20349719

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/archiv ... 39043.html


http://www.keloland.com/newsdetail.cfm/ ... /?id=65398

http://z10.invisionfree.com/usedtobedoe ... topic=7434


Why haven't the South Dakota authorities searched all the creeks within a few miles of the gravel pit since May 1971?

How many other people have had to have seen four wheels sticking up in Brule Creek for the last 42 years and never said anything? The hubcaps were still on the Studebaker. You'd have to have lived in a cave to not be from that part of South Dakota and not have heard of the two girls in the missing Studebaker.

No testimony of jailhouse snitches should ever be admitted into evidence. Period. No exceptions. If this case doesn't lead to that rule, nothing will.



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 Post subject: Re: 42 year old South Dakota cold case solved
PostPosted: Mon Sep 23, 2013 7:10 pm 
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SuperXOne wrote:
No testimony of jailhouse snitches should ever be admitted into evidence. Period. No exceptions.


I am not familiar with the case and would never want to see an innocent person charged, but that statement is as short sighted as saying all gray haired grannies bake cookies and should always be trusted.

All evidence should be considered in totality.


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 Post subject: Re: 42 year old South Dakota cold case solved
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Juries can't consider evidence in totality. The very murder charge in above listed case also brought a lot of women out of the woodwork to start perjuring themselves. Even the police were trying cast some kind of sinister implication on articles found in Lykken's home.

A man who is in jail isn't ever a credible source to snitch on his cell mate.

Now, using some information to go out and conduct separate investigations is different than what I propose, which is an absolute bar against testimony by a cell mate in a criminal trial.

Another problem is that the jury is reminded that the defendant is in jail. People simply can't get past their prejudices against that.

The world won't end if we bar jailhouse snitches from testifying. This is only one case, that we can look back with perfect 20 20 hindsight and see what happened. How many other men rot in prison on the perjured testimony of jailhouse snitches is impossible to determine, but it should be none at al, IMO.

And as to this case, all of the speculation and rewards offered and reputations ruined and criminal investigations that have never really stopped for 42 years can be summed up by one photograph. This car was a half a mile from the party. The creek where the girls wrecked is very narrow, and this car was very close to the road. This was so needless, had the authorities started their search back in 1971 under the assumption that the girls had crashed and the car could be found very close to the scene of the party.

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 Post subject: Re: 42 year old South Dakota cold case solved
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Still trying to figure out how you added 2+2 and came up with 7.

Nowhere in any of your links does it say the case has been solved.

Their car was found. As of yet there is no mention of remains being found in the car that was found.

Please tell us how you know the girls crashed their car. Nowhere in your links does anyone say the girls crashed their car.

Nothing posted by an attorney should ever be believed. Period. No exceptions. If this case doesn't lead to that rule, nothing will.

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 Post subject: Re: 42 year old South Dakota cold case solved
PostPosted: Tue Sep 24, 2013 11:37 pm 
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I was afraid of that. In this modern world, we so much want to believe the conspiracy we can't see the truth right in front of our face.

Two girls are following a car load of boys to a party on a gravel road. The boys report they took a wrong turn then look back and didn't see the girls headlights. The girl's car is found upside down in a creek just off the road a half a mile from where the party was.

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What happened?

For the love of Jesus, what's happened to our common sense?

This is exactly why the law has taken several centuries developing rules of evidence and we need a lot more of them to protect innocent people from being tried for murder when it's obvious what happened was not a murder, but a tragic car accident on an unfamiliar gravel road.

How many men rot in prison convicted of crimes that weren't crimes at all?

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 Post subject: Re: 42 year old South Dakota cold case solved
PostPosted: Sun Sep 29, 2013 6:38 pm 
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SuperXOne wrote:
No testimony of jailhouse snitches should ever be admitted into evidence. Period. No exceptions. If this case doesn't lead to that rule, nothing will.

You ever read "In Cold Blood"?

As to submerged cars, the same thing happened in OK this month:
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FOSS, Okla. (AP) — For more than a generation, this rural community has been haunted by a mystery: What happened to three teens who headed off to a high school football game in the early 1970s and were never seen again?

Police believe they may finally have an answer after divers on a training exercise discovered a car containing skeletal remains in a murky lake. Divers also recovered a second vehicle containing bones, and investigators were searching Wednesday for other cold cases that might match the grim discovery.
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2013/09/18/submerged-car-cold-case/2833913/

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 Post subject: Re: 42 year old South Dakota cold case solved
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And finally today the authorities announced the end to the sad case of the missing South Dakota girls. It was an accident. The Studebaker was in high gear, the headlights still on, the bodies of the girls still fully clothed in the front seat, even their driver's licenses still readable. there was thin tread and damage to one tire. They ran off the road, the car flipped over in the water, and they lay there for 42 years until a drought revealed their car upside down in a creek about a half a mile from the party they never arrived at.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/201 ... ppearance/

There have been several boys that have lived all these years under a cloud of suspicion, a father that died not knowing what happened to his daughter, a farm was dug up for evidence, and a man indicted for murder who was completely innocent of a crime because there never was a crime.

You'd think the authorities would have sent divers down in all the creeks within a few miles, just to check if they ran off the road. And surely in the forty two years the car was hard by that gravel road that the water got low enough that somebody saw a car upside down in the creek.

These cases serve notice why the common law required independent proof of death by culpable homicide before a murder conviction could stand. It should also serve as a reminder of why to never, ever believe a jail house snitch. They will say anything in the world to get out of jail, even fabricate a tape recorded "confession" using somebody other than the defendant, as this snitch did.

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 Post subject: Re: 42 year old South Dakota cold case solved
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Lykken is presently serving a long sentence (over 200 years) in a South Dakota prison for rape. My sympathy for him is zero. The same sum reflects my opinion of the veracity of lawyers......


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 Post subject: Re: 42 year old South Dakota cold case solved
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 Post subject: Re: 42 year old South Dakota cold case solved
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Ironically, the 225 year rape and kidnapping conviction of David Lykken arose from an uncorroborated account by a girlfriend who admitted having a long sexual relationship with Lykken but claimed she said no the night of the rape.

http://sd.findacase.com/research/wfrmDo ... .SD.htm/qx

To make that worse, she testified in Lykken's 2008 murder case against him, too. Lykken's own sister also testified in 2008 that she saw two girls slumped in the Studebaker at Lykken's farm. Which was a lie, as we now know for certain, because those two girls were never on Lykken's farm. Besides, Lykken was about 16 years old in 1971. How in the world could he possibly have murdered two girls in a Studebaker, for no reason, and then hid their car? The police who used backhoes to dig up his parent's farm in 2008 had lost all their common sense. They even claimed to have found purses and articles of the missing girl's clothing and Studebaker hubcaps, which also was 100% wrong.

http://siouxcityjournal.com/news/sister ... 0216b.html

The only reason that Lykken was not convicted of murder by people who have the attitude that he's in prison and they hate lawyers, so therefore he's guilty of something, was that it was shown that the jailhouse snitch fabricated a confession using a different person to play the part of Lykken.

None of us are raised to be so gullible to always believe the police and prosecutors, and yet many people let their emotions, prejudice, and hatreds trump the common sense, logic, and reason that they had while they were young to believe anything and everything bad about people so long as the police or prosecutors believe it, and tell them that it's so.

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 Post subject: Re: 42 year old South Dakota cold case solved
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Notice the name calling ('hate lawyers', 'hatreds'). Never, ever trust name callers. A common lawyer trick to sway individuals to respond in an emotional, not rational, manner.


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 Post subject: Re: 42 year old South Dakota cold case solved
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Notice the complete lack of any kind of conscience that an innocent man was falsely accused of a crime that never happened. There were also those boys who have had whispers behind their back for over forty years about "their role" in what happened. What happened was that searchers in 1971 overlooked the most obvious place those girls went missing. There was no crime, just a tragedy. That creek was big enough to hide the car. It should have been searched long before the police dug up the farm of an innocent man and reported that there were incriminating items in the search, and perjured and fabricated testimony was believed by gullible authorities who had taken leave of the common sense they surely had when they were younger.

Hatred, prejudice, emotion, ignorance, and gullibility rule the day when the defendant is unpopular. It's happened for thousands of years, and we don't seem to have advanced much since the days when witches were burned at the stake, for causing cows to go dry.

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 Post subject: Re: 42 year old South Dakota cold case solved
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Facts have noting to do with Justice. Criminals go free and the innocent rot in jail depending on who make the best argument at trial. My BIL is a very success trial lawyer, my wife and daughter doctors.
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 Post subject: Re: 42 year old South Dakota cold case solved
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 Post subject: Re: 42 year old South Dakota cold case solved
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Lawyers are disliked for good reasons. But this isn't about lawyers at all. This case was about the lack of logic, common sense, and reason that takes over when people just flat out refuse to use their brains and let their passions get the better of them.

You have to wonder how that back in 1971 the authorities didn't do what common sense would dictate anybody to do. The boys said that the girls were behind them on the gravel road, and then they didn't see their lights anymore. Every creek should have been searched from the quarry back to the interstate.

But it's all water under the bridge now.

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 Post subject: Re: 42 year old South Dakota cold case solved
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Notice even MORE name calling. Even MORE reason not to trust SX1. By the way, only a lawyer could claim a man sentenced to over 200 YEARS in prison as an 'innocent man'. Makes me wonder if he ever steps back and actually reads what he posts......


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 Post subject: Re: 42 year old South Dakota cold case solved
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Somewhere along life's road, there are millions and millions of good people that have somewhere lost the same common sense they had when they were young. You can get them to believe anything, just so long as it's negative, scary, and involves a good conspiracy theory.

The best part is that when the bright light of undeniable truth wipes away every delusion they had, they are only angry at the people that exposed the fraud and sham. They far rather prefer the sinister theory than truth.

Everybody in this world was innocent of murdering those girls in South Dakota. They had been dead since 1971 in a Studebaker upside down in a creek, while the authorities were spinning lies, fabricating fairy tales, and accusing a man who was,,,,,,,,of course,,,,,,innocent of that murder that never happened of kidnapping two girls in a Studebaker and taking them to his parent's farm (he didn't have a car) and then digging a hole (with what?) and hiding the girls and their Studebaker, but leaving their purses and clothes and things in sheds,,,deeply buried in that hole in the ground. Quite a feat for a 16 year old kid that was innocent in 1971, no matter what else he did later on in life wrong.

Geez. How can people believe such things? And then, when the truth is exposed, why aren't they mad at the people who lied to them?

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 Post subject: Re: 42 year old South Dakota cold case solved
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Put your money where your mouth is. Trot up to South Dakota and free the 'innocent' Mr. Lykken. Pro bono, of course. Good luck.




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