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 Post subject: 1100 20 gauge frame & weight
PostPosted: Sat Dec 21, 2013 6:59 pm 
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HI, I want to get my daughters a 20 gauge 1100 . The problem is I just don't know which one to get. I heard the 20 was built or is the same frame as he 12 gauge . Is there any truth to this ? Ideally I would like to get the LW 20 but don't know the difference between it and the standard Remington 1100 20 gauge. Thanks




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 Post subject: Re: 1100 20 gauge frame & weight
PostPosted: Sat Dec 21, 2013 7:08 pm 
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If you're looking at new guns, there's no such thing as a Std 20 anymore. Production stopped somewhere around 1974ish. There might have been a few years of overlap, but in effect everything since then is a LW or LT. A std 20 will have an "X" (or possibly an "N") as the last digit. I know I've only given you enough info to be dangerous, but I'm sure someone else will fill in the blanks or correct anything I said that's off.


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 Post subject: Re: 1100 20 gauge frame & weight
PostPosted: Sun Dec 22, 2013 7:45 am 
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Remington has made 3 different 1100's in 20ga. The standard 20 was built on a 12 frame. The LW was a scaled down gun. The barrel had a short tang with the ejector in the receiver like a Wingmaster and was only in production for a few years. The LT is a scaled down gun. The barrel has a long tang with the ejector on the barrel tang. By the way, the LW and LT are actually built on a 28ga. frame. The LT-20 would be the gun to go with. Remington still makes them, but they are also out there on the used market. If you get one made after 1986 it will have choke tubes which makes the gun more versatile. The new 1100 Sporting guns are really nice. Most of them have beautiful wood. They won't say LT-20 on the receiver, but that is what they are. Another gun to consider would be the 11-87 Premier in 20ga. The 11-87 gives the ability to shoot 2 3/4" or 3" shells, but you will have to go to the used market to find one.


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 Post subject: Re: 1100 20 gauge frame & weight
PostPosted: Sun Dec 22, 2013 9:48 am 
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Ditto to what trackerboy said. I would only add that the older standard 20s are still quite popular with some of the clay targetset, but parts are getting scarcer all the time, and barrels are expensive. LT 20 is current manufacture and a lot more options across the board.

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 Post subject: Re: 1100 20 gauge frame & weight
PostPosted: Sun Dec 22, 2013 2:44 pm 
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The current 20-lt is a great kids gun. I got one from my nieces and nephews and then bought a kids stock for less than $100. It's plastic and super short, perfect for a kid to use. If I want to shoot it or when they grow, I will put the regular sporting stock back on.


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 Post subject: Re: 1100 20 gauge frame & weight
PostPosted: Tue Dec 24, 2013 1:13 pm 
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Thanks for the replies. Is the Premiere built on a true 20 size frame ?Thanks again. I took my daughter out for her and new dogs first quail hunt. Now I am actively looking.


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 Post subject: Re: 1100 20 gauge frame & weight
PostPosted: Tue Dec 24, 2013 2:19 pm 
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The 11-87 Premier 20ga is built on a 28ga. frame. The same as the LT-20. Going on a first quail hunt sounds like a good time.


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 Post subject: Re: 1100 20 gauge frame & weight
PostPosted: Thu Dec 26, 2013 11:43 pm 
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Quail hunt was a blast. Going again in the morning. Now my question is will the 11-87 Premier in 20 ga cycle 2 3/4 shells reliably or is it like the magnum and prefers 3" only. Thanks so much. I want to get this girl shooting. She needs a shotgun. I load a lot of twenty ga. so it's the flavor of the day. I just don't load 3"
Thanks so much.


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 Post subject: Re: 1100 20 gauge frame & weight
PostPosted: Thu Dec 26, 2013 11:50 pm 
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Yes the 11-87 will cycle any normal 2 3/4" shell load. The LT-20 is a great gun for anybody, not just kids. I have two and would not part with either one!


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 Post subject: Re: 1100 20 gauge frame & weight
PostPosted: Fri Dec 27, 2013 9:25 am 
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The 11-87 should have a barrel seal activator for use with lighter loads.

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 Post subject: Re: 1100 20 gauge frame & weight
PostPosted: Fri Dec 27, 2013 8:57 pm 
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Can you please tell me if the 11-87 premier will shoot steel


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 Post subject: Re: 1100 20 gauge frame & weight
PostPosted: Fri Dec 27, 2013 11:20 pm 
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Of course the 11-87 will shoot steel.

I've started several kids out on a Remington 1100LT 20ga.

The original stock was in bad shape anyway so I had it cut down as short as it could go (to the recoil spring tube) and had a thin rifle type recoil pad fitted to it. I then got one of those inexpensive comb kits that consists of velcro tape and padded pieces to build up the comb. Getting the comb the right height for the young shooter is even more important then getting the length of pull right.

I bought an extra stock to get a full sized one again.

Both of my sons learned how to shoot with this old 1100LT. In my opinion there is no better shotgun to start a shooter out on then the 1100LT in 20ga. It's very soft shooting. Much more so then a youth 870, the 870s will kick a lot. A 28ga 1100 would work as well if you can afford the extra money for shells.

My sons each started out with this gun at about 10 years old. As they grew I would first add a slip on recoil pad to lengthen the length of pull. Finally I'd go to the full size stock.

At each boy got to the point where a full sized stock fit them I just bought them their own Remington 1100LT. They both have shot a lot of skeet with them and carry them to hunt with.

Eventually each of them was ready for a "real" skeet gun so they both got Beretta O/Us.

They will each have their own 20ga 1100LTs and I'd like to think that they will use them for the rest of their lives. Eventually teaching their own kids how to shoot with them.


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 Post subject: Re: 1100 20 gauge frame & weight
PostPosted: Fri Dec 27, 2013 11:25 pm 
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BTW, the main difference between the 20ga 1100LT and the 20ga 11-87 is that the 11-87 has a gas compensation system that allows it to work with both light 2 3/4in loads through heavy 3in shells. Thus making it a great all around gun.

Dimensionally they are identical.

I've never found a real reason to shoot anything but 2 3/4in shells in 20ga so never worried about it. But if that's something you like then the 11-87 is for you.


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 Post subject: Re: 1100 20 gauge frame & weight
PostPosted: Sun Dec 29, 2013 6:58 pm 
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Thanks again for all of the replies. I jumped off the cliff and bought her 11-87 premier. She liked the gold trigger. Go figure. I still think LOP is a little too long. Now the search for a shorter stock begins because I hate to butcher a nice one. Going quail hunting again with her and new pup. Now we just need some rain for next year.


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 Post subject: Re: 1100 20 gauge frame & weight
PostPosted: Mon May 14, 2018 5:37 pm 
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I have an older standard frame 20ga magnum.
Also have a 2.75 barrel for it.
Very soft shooting shotgun.
Yes the serial number has a "N" in it......




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