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 Post subject: Shortest legal shotgun
PostPosted: Tue Jan 18, 2005 11:11 am 
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Hello. Im new to shotguns but not new to guns. I would like to add a shotgun to my collection and im looking for something in a 12 gauge thats not very long. What is the shortest barrel length they make thats legal? I like the Remington 870 but was wondering if there was anything shorter.




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 Post subject: Re: Shortest legal shotgun
PostPosted: Tue Jan 18, 2005 11:38 am 
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The shortset legal shotgun is one with a 18inch barrel. Though most manufactuers and gunsniths will only make barrels 18.5" to be on the safe side. To measure your barrel stick a dowell rod in the barrel and measure it where it sticks out.

Be careful because the ATF fines and possible prison time for haveing a shotgun under 18 inches is not worth the risk.

If you really want a short barreled shotgun you can pay a $200 dollar ATF tax stamp and you can purchase a factory made shotgun with a shorter than 18" inch barrel. Remember though, these are not very useful and the Buraeu of ATF will be constantly breathing down your neck and watching your every move.

If you want a useable 18.5"-22" shotgun check out the

Remington 870- look at the website

Winchester 1300- look at the website

Mossberg 500 or 590-look at the website

If you have anymore short barreled shotgun questions check out the Tactical shotgun forum in this web-site. Be warned though, the people that hang out in the tactical forum can be very opiniated, but they mean well and want to answer questions.

Hope this helps.

You will find out there are countless options available for the short barreled shotgun like marine coat finish's, parkerized finish, heat shields, speed feed stock, side-saddles, pistol grips, tac lights, and so on and so on. Some of these options are useful and some are not in someones opinion. Playing with the shotguns is the fun part though.....


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 Post subject: Re: Shortest legal shotgun
PostPosted: Tue Jan 18, 2005 12:24 pm 
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shortest barrel is 18 inches as long as it does not make the overall length of the gun less than 26 inches...

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 Post subject: Re: Shortest legal shotgun
PostPosted: Tue Jan 18, 2005 12:32 pm 
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Salmoneye wrote:
shortest barrel is 18 inches as long as it does not make the overall length of the gun less than 26 inches...


That was the other number I was trying to remember...

To SVT-Sinister... Remember that I don't work for the ATF and I am pretty sure most of the members here don't work for the ATF either, so be sure you know what is legal and what is not.

Your best bet would be to got to a good gundealer and get a stock short barreled shotgun to start off with :D !


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 Post subject: Re: Shortest legal shotgun
PostPosted: Tue Jan 18, 2005 2:42 pm 
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Thanks alot. that helped out alot... The only problem now is finding out which one to get.. The ones you listed are all nice.


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 Post subject: Re: Shortest legal shotgun
PostPosted: Tue Jan 18, 2005 2:48 pm 
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SVT-Sinister wrote:
Thanks alot. that helped out alot... The only problem now is finding out which one to get.. The ones you listed are all nice.


Just remember rem.870, win1300, moss. 500 and 590.

The rem and winny are in the $300 or so range and the 590 is in the $400-$500 range.

People all claim one of the three to be the best, but you can't go wrong with any of the three....


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 Post subject: Re: Shortest legal shotgun
PostPosted: Tue Jan 18, 2005 3:19 pm 
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id get the remmy for the winny. mossy's make too much noise.

oh, ive got a winchester 1300 defender, and I love it. she's been very good to me.

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 18, 2005 3:23 pm 
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Remember that there are local laws that may be more restrictive in your area...

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 Post subject: Re: Shortest legal shotgun
PostPosted: Tue Jan 18, 2005 4:28 pm 
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Salmoneye is right, you can have an '18 inch barrel (lowest) but only if the overall length is at least '26 inches, so that means if you put a pistol grip on it and it is '25 your in deep sh*t if you get caught. Another thing to concider is weather you will be taking it to shoot at a club or range, if you are then you'll want a full stock with the pistol grip handle because many don't allow just a pistol grip (they say it is dangerous) I think so long as your not shooting slugs and your not small/lightweight it is pretty safe and you can have great control.

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 Post subject: Re: Shortest legal shotgun
PostPosted: Tue Jan 18, 2005 5:42 pm 
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Gentlemen, and whatever else you are, I present to you, the shortest legal shotgun currently made.

http://www.serbu.com/shorty.htm

It's also the stupidest shotgun I've ever seen, but if it's made somebody will undoubtedly buy it.

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 Post subject: Re: Shortest legal shotgun
PostPosted: Tue Jan 18, 2005 5:59 pm 
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It's also the stupidest shotgun I've ever seen, but if it's made somebody will undoubtedly buy it.


AMEN and...unfortunately.... amen........

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 Post subject: Re: Shortest legal shotgun
PostPosted: Tue Jan 18, 2005 6:03 pm 
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Gentlemen, and whatever else you are, I present to you, the shortest legal shotgun currently made.

http://www.serbu.com/shorty.htm

It's also the stupidest shotgun I've ever seen, but if it's made somebody will undoubtedly buy it.


^77 Image touching off a mag round of double-O's with that monster? OUCH! :roll:


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 Post subject: Re: Shortest legal shotgun
PostPosted: Tue Jan 18, 2005 6:44 pm 
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I don't see why anyone would want that thing. I've got a NEF 20ga. with a pistol grip and an 18in. barrel and it kicks plenty for me.(if you dont hold it right the hammer will cut your hand). I figure the "shorty" would be almost uncontrolable.

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 Post subject: Re: Shortest legal shotgun
PostPosted: Tue Jan 18, 2005 7:37 pm 
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Justin Thompson wrote:
Gentlemen, and whatever else you are, I present to you, the shortest legal shotgun currently made.

http://www.serbu.com/shorty.htm

It's also the stupidest shotgun I've ever seen, but if it's made somebody will undoubtedly buy it.


Uuuhh Nope. Maybe you didn't type what you meant or you don't know, but on its own that shotgun is illegal.

To purchase you don't need the expensive $200 tax stamp. You get an AOW "Any Other Weapon" tax stamp and if my memeory serves me correctly I want to say its $25 or so, but you still go through the B of ATF.


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 Post subject: Re: Shortest legal shotgun
PostPosted: Tue Jan 18, 2005 8:31 pm 
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The tax on an "Any Other Weapon" is $5.00.


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 Post subject: Re: Shortest legal shotgun
PostPosted: Tue Jan 18, 2005 9:03 pm 
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 Post subject: Re: Shortest legal shotgun
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Justin Thompson wrote:
Gentlemen, and whatever else you are, I present to you, the shortest legal shotgun currently made.

http://www.serbu.com/shorty.htm

It's also the stupidest shotgun I've ever seen, but if it's made somebody will undoubtedly buy it.


really? is there a shortest stun gun in that site?

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 Post subject: Re: Shortest legal shotgun
PostPosted: Sat Sep 18, 2010 6:25 am 
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You dredged up an almost 6 year old thread for THAT?

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 Post subject: Re: Shortest legal shotgun
PostPosted: Sat Sep 18, 2010 9:06 am 
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You could either buy from the factory, or restock any issue, short-barreled Mossy or Rem 870 with a folding / PG buttstock.

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 Post subject: Re: Shortest legal shotgun
PostPosted: Sat Sep 18, 2010 1:56 pm 
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You dredged up an almost 6 year old thread for THAT?

No kidding.
But since it is back to the top, here's something that needs a little correcting.
RedRyder21 wrote:
The shortset legal shotgun is one with a 18inch barrel.

The shortest legal shotgun under Federal law without the NFA tax stamp as an SBS or AOW. Shorter barrels are still legal, you just have to pay the tax.
Individual states will allow the shorter barrels, or not. Canada has different laws all together about short barreled shotguns, which is kind of interesting.
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Remember though, these are not very useful

Actually, they are quite useful. Maybe not for what you need or want them to do, but I assure you many have found them to be quite useful.
[quote]and the Buraeu of ATF will be constantly breathing down your neck and watching your every move./quote]
Please don't spread this nonsense. This is absolutely not true.



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