If there's one thing I really like it's a good picture thread.
I enjoy looking at old pictures of various subjects, but seeing how this is a shotgun forum, I'd like to see if anyone would be interested in starting a good "Historic Social Shotgun Picture Thread".
I'd like to avoid people posting their newest wizz-bang shotgun (there's another thread for that) or pics of them shooting at the range. I'd like to keep this thread limited to shotguns in real use...Law enforcement, military, and defensive use.
Regarding defensive use... A pic of daddy in a rocking chair with a shotgun sitting next to him on the porch in 1952 sounds like a good pic. A pic of you with a shotgun watching for looters in NOLA after Katrina...good to go! A pic of you (or me) posing with your HD shotgun in your living room has no historical context and I'd like to avoid that in this thread.
Hopefully the above is reasonable and makes sense.
Now...On to a couple pictures to start.
The first is a picture I posted in another thread, but it's got some neat history. The gentlemen in the following picture are Los Angeles County Constables. It is my understanding that the Sheriff's Department itself was too small (in terms of personnel) to handle the vast jurisdiction of Los Angeles County, so local Constabularies were established which reported to the Sheriff. In this 1924 picture, the man on the left is Jack Pilcher, center with the shotgun (Winchester Model 12 riot) is Ed Brown, and an unnamed officer on the right. Ed Brown was killed in a shootout later that year which also involved Jack Pilcher, who survived and killed the criminal. Jack Pilcher would die the following year in a freak accident where his partner dropped his handgun and it discharged, killing Constable Pilcher.
Here's a link to the story:
http://scvhistory.com/scvhistory/lasd053113brown.htm
The next picture is somewhat more mysterious... The only information I have is the caption from the on-line car thread where I found the picture. It states this is a "Sheriff's Night Squad" from 1925. I can't find any information on-line about the "Night Squad" and while there is no specific department stated, it was in a thread about Los Angeles so I'm going on the "possibility" that it may be the LA County Sheriff's Dept. I can't tell what model shotguns they're carrying, but close as I can tell they may also be Winchester model 12s because they appear to lack the external hammer of the 1897...If anyone can tell better I'd sure like to ID them!
I enjoy looking at old pictures of various subjects, but seeing how this is a shotgun forum, I'd like to see if anyone would be interested in starting a good "Historic Social Shotgun Picture Thread".
I'd like to avoid people posting their newest wizz-bang shotgun (there's another thread for that) or pics of them shooting at the range. I'd like to keep this thread limited to shotguns in real use...Law enforcement, military, and defensive use.
Regarding defensive use... A pic of daddy in a rocking chair with a shotgun sitting next to him on the porch in 1952 sounds like a good pic. A pic of you with a shotgun watching for looters in NOLA after Katrina...good to go! A pic of you (or me) posing with your HD shotgun in your living room has no historical context and I'd like to avoid that in this thread.
Hopefully the above is reasonable and makes sense.
Now...On to a couple pictures to start.
The first is a picture I posted in another thread, but it's got some neat history. The gentlemen in the following picture are Los Angeles County Constables. It is my understanding that the Sheriff's Department itself was too small (in terms of personnel) to handle the vast jurisdiction of Los Angeles County, so local Constabularies were established which reported to the Sheriff. In this 1924 picture, the man on the left is Jack Pilcher, center with the shotgun (Winchester Model 12 riot) is Ed Brown, and an unnamed officer on the right. Ed Brown was killed in a shootout later that year which also involved Jack Pilcher, who survived and killed the criminal. Jack Pilcher would die the following year in a freak accident where his partner dropped his handgun and it discharged, killing Constable Pilcher.
Here's a link to the story:
http://scvhistory.com/scvhistory/lasd053113brown.htm
The next picture is somewhat more mysterious... The only information I have is the caption from the on-line car thread where I found the picture. It states this is a "Sheriff's Night Squad" from 1925. I can't find any information on-line about the "Night Squad" and while there is no specific department stated, it was in a thread about Los Angeles so I'm going on the "possibility" that it may be the LA County Sheriff's Dept. I can't tell what model shotguns they're carrying, but close as I can tell they may also be Winchester model 12s because they appear to lack the external hammer of the 1897...If anyone can tell better I'd sure like to ID them!