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 Post subject: Primer removal: Is this wrong .. ? ..
PostPosted: Thu Mar 17, 2005 4:12 pm 
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At the risk of asking a 'dumb question', here goes. We have all had to remove a live primer from a hull, from time to time, when reloading shotshells. The way I have always done it in the past is to use the primer removal press punch on my MEC Sizemaster reloader to accomplish this. The first time I did this I checked to see if the primer punch itself would actually pierce through the inner covering of the primer. It didn't so it seemed to be an 'ok' way of removing a live primer from a hull .. I figured this was the way it was done .. ? .. I have never had a live primer go off using this method.

But, after reading on another thread about removing a live primer by prying the primer up on it's flanged end, by hand, to remove it from the hull that set the question in mind. Is using the primer punch the wrong way to remove a live primer .. ? ..

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 Post subject: Re: Primer removal: Is this wrong .. ? ..
PostPosted: Thu Mar 17, 2005 5:26 pm 
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I have done it exacly as you described, using the loader depriming punch, for forty years and have yet to notice any sign of danger. I hope to continue doing it like that for the next forty. Enjoy.


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 Post subject: Re: Primer removal: Is this wrong .. ? ..
PostPosted: Thu Mar 17, 2005 5:32 pm 
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I guesd I did it wrong. The first, last and only time I tried that the primer went off.

Now I don't remove them. If I'm discarding the shell I spray some oil in to kill the primer before pitching

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 Post subject: Re: Primer removal: Is this wrong .. ? ..
PostPosted: Thu Mar 17, 2005 6:08 pm 
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I can't imagine how one would set a primer off by using a deprimer. I wonder how many I have removed in both shotgun and metalic rifle and pistol cartridges over the years??? :?

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 Post subject: Re: Primer removal: Is this wrong .. ? ..
PostPosted: Thu Mar 17, 2005 9:29 pm 
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Press it out from inside the hull and don't look back, that isn't the business end :wink:

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 Post subject: Re: Primer removal: Is this wrong .. ? ..
PostPosted: Thu Mar 17, 2005 9:48 pm 
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I've done it a lot of times, but i do wear safety glasses when doing this particular procedure,
i know,i should wear safety glasses while reloading,period,but i don't.
Does anyone wear safety glasses while just reloading?
It's kinda got me curious now, i'm always just too lazy to put em on, am i flirtin with disaster?
A little off topic:
I've never had a primer fire while reloading, BUT, i have always thought about a piece of shot gettin in the primer punch under a live primer, especially since i now use a 9000G, i've always used single stages till about 1 yr ago, perhaps i should wear glasses runnin the 9000?

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I just press em back out, an keep on loading. Never had a problem, so far.

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 Post subject: Re: Primer removal: Is this wrong .. ? ..
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Before your angst level over depriming a live primer reaches cosmic heights check out my latest adventure with one of those little bombinos:

http://www.shotgunworld.com/bbs/viewtop ... 823#326823

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 Post subject: Re: Primer removal: Is this wrong .. ? ..
PostPosted: Fri Mar 18, 2005 5:07 am 
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UltraMag,
I have had a piece of #9 magnum shot roll or fall into the primer seating cup (unaware to me). After I rotated the hull plate and pulled the handel I noticed a change in the amount of force needed to complete the cycle. I did a little investigating and found a crushed piece of shot. I was shocked that the primer did not go off, If the shot was larger maybe it would have. I just thank the lord that I still have a face. If it had gone off it may have been disaterous.
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 Post subject: Re: Primer removal: Is this wrong .. ? ..
PostPosted: Fri Mar 18, 2005 1:29 pm 
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I really don't think just pushing a piece of shot into a primer is going to cause it to go BANG! It is the impact that causes the priming compound to fire. I've done some crush tests with large rifle and pistol primers over the years and have yet to get one to fire just crushing one. A sharp impact between the primer cup and anvil? Well, that's a totaly different tin of tuna! I've deprimed crimped in military primers, live ones and you would be amazed at the condition they were in after thay finaly came out. They didn't fire though! I'm not at all conserned about depriming live shotgun primers and then even reusing them! :shock: I've reused a lot of deprimed large and small rifle and pistol primers over the many years of my ammo handloading carear, never an issue depriming or reusing removed live primers. You do it any way you see fit, we are all responsible for our own actions and consequences. As far as using safety glasses, untill I needed to wear glasses to read/see close detail, I didn't use safety glasses either. Now, I don't have any choice! If I want to see what the heck I'm doing, and that is imensly helpfull, by the way, I have to wear safety glasses. I wear them all the time, except in the shower and in bed! :wink:

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