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 Post subject: Garbi 7 pin 103as
PostPosted: Mon Apr 09, 2018 6:53 pm 
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Well I just got a composed pair of Garbi 103a s, 20 and 28 from 1986. Come with makers case and extra pins and springs fitted to each,. The curious thing is that they have seven pin side locks, non hand detachable. I have three others and have had 2 others I sold and they were all 5 pin and most from the same era. These are single trigger.

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 Post subject: Re: Garbi 7 pin 103as
PostPosted: Tue Apr 10, 2018 8:27 pm 
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I still haven't even figured out how to count the pins.


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 Post subject: Re: Garbi 7 pin 103as
PostPosted: Fri Apr 13, 2018 4:07 pm 
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timcornish wrote:
Well I just got a composed pair of Garbi 103a s, 20 and 28 from 1986. Come with makers case and extra pins and springs fitted to each,. The curious thing is that they have seven pin side locks, non hand detachable. I have three others and have had 2 others I sold and they were all 5 pin and most from the same era. These are single trigger.

Thoughts or experiences?

Thanks,

Tim Cornish

You can see them on Bob Hunter's site


The Spanish artisanal shotgun makers began using coil rather that leaf and “V” springs in their H&H type side locks in the 1950s. That was the time at which the shift from seven pin locks to six (or five, or four, or fewer) pin locks began. By the end of the 1970s the only guns with seven pin (and no coil springs) were the high price point guns, and those guns on which the buyer required seven pin locks.

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 Post subject: Re: Garbi 7 pin 103as
PostPosted: Fri Apr 13, 2018 9:43 pm 
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Thanks, Kyrie, I suspect that this was a buyer preference. I My dad had a couple made when he visited Spain with my mother in 1982 and I still have one, a model 100 with extra fancy wood and 5 pin locks. Always thought the coil spring safety sear was probably more reliable as well as less costly. But I am well pleased with this pair, visions of doves , quail, teal, grouse etc come fall.


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 Post subject: Re: Garbi 7 pin 103as
PostPosted: Sat Apr 14, 2018 5:52 pm 
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Oblio13 wrote:
I still haven't even figured out how to count the pins.


Here you go, pins are the ends of screws used to hold the lock parts together. Example with pins circled:

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 Post subject: Re: Garbi 7 pin 103as
PostPosted: Wed Apr 18, 2018 10:49 am 
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Kyrie wrote:
Oblio13 wrote:
I still haven't even figured out how to count the pins.


Here you go, pins are the ends of screws used to hold the lock parts together. Example with pins circled:

Image

I don't get why the hammer pin is not counted, or the screw that holds the two sideplates together, or the pin at the front of the bar at the mainspring's bend.


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 Post subject: Re: Garbi 7 pin 103as
PostPosted: Fri Apr 20, 2018 6:12 am 
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Oblio13 wrote:
I don't get why the hammer pin is not counted, or the screw that holds the two sideplates together, or the pin at the front of the bar at the mainspring's bend.


The word "pin" is used in the way English gun makers user it; we would say "screw". The "pins" (say rather screws) are the ends of the screws that hold the lock parts together and onto the side plate. The hammer pin isn't a screw, and the mainspring pin at the front of the bar, aren't screws and so are not counted. The screw that holds the side plates on isn't involved in the lock work, and so is not counted.

Take another look at the photo I put up. I put up pictures of the inside and outside of the lock plate so you could associate the "pins" visible on the outside of the lock plate with the screws visible on the inside of he lock plate.



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