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 Post subject: Every new browning I have bought over the last 15 years.
PostPosted: Fri May 11, 2018 7:46 pm 
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Every new browning I have bought over the last 15 years have had bad chokes
725 sporter All mis marked got New ones new silver auto .
IC Is +.003 restriction over bore .
Mod .0115 restriction but the full was ok at .031


And had others . The two berettas we’re not any better .
That’s to US standards .000 .005 .010 .015 . .020

Are US standards Off ?



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 Post subject: Re: Every new browning I have bought over the last 15 years
PostPosted: Sat May 12, 2018 9:16 am 
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skar wrote:
Every new browning I have bought over the last 15 years have had bad chokes
725 sporter All mis marked got New ones new silver auto .
IC Is +.003 restriction over bore .
Mod .0115 restriction but the full was ok at .031


And had others . The two berettas we’re not any better .
That’s to US standards .000 .005 .010 .015 . .020

Are US standards Off ?


Don’t buyBrownings!
Or get aftermarket chokes!


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 Post subject: Re: Every new browning I have bought over the last 15 years
PostPosted: Sat May 12, 2018 9:23 am 
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Dr Duk wrote:
skar wrote:
Every new browning I have bought over the last 15 years have had bad chokes
725 sporter All mis marked got New ones new silver auto .
?


Don’t buyBrownings!
Or get aftermarket chokes!

I said I did.

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 Post subject: Re: Every new browning I have bought over the last 15 years
PostPosted: Sat May 12, 2018 8:51 pm 
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The only Browning O/U I've purchased in the last 15 years is a 725 Sporting 20 ga. The factory chokes it came with measure as such:

Sk - .005" constriction
IC - .007"
Mod - .012"
IM - .017"
Full - .025"

Not sure if that constitutes "bad chokes". The only other chokes I've bought for it were two other Browning flush skeet chokes that also are .005" constriction. I use it mostly for skeet shooting and the factory flush skeet chokes grind up the targets.


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 Post subject: Re: Every new browning I have bought over the last 15 years
PostPosted: Sun May 13, 2018 6:05 am 
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725 sporting extended had a lot of bad press on its chokes .
Maybe they fix the light now . Lots of post on this .

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 Post subject: Re: Every new browning I have bought over the last 15 years
PostPosted: Sun May 13, 2018 8:06 pm 
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And when you put them on the pattern board how did they print ?


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 Post subject: Re: Every new browning I have bought over the last 15 years
PostPosted: Mon May 14, 2018 5:28 am 
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Oldman1949 wrote:
And when you put them on the pattern board how did they print ?

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 Post subject: Re: Every new browning I have bought over the last 15 years
PostPosted: Mon May 14, 2018 5:46 am 
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Bet you can't shoot the difference in the chokes.


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 Post subject: Re: Every new browning I have bought over the last 15 years
PostPosted: Mon May 14, 2018 6:01 am 
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The IC measured the same as Mod so your probably right .
Which makes my point ,

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 Post subject: Re: Every new browning I have bought over the last 15 years
PostPosted: Thu May 17, 2018 11:45 am 
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Each shotgun manufacturer seems to have their own idea of what chokes should be. Last year I bought a Remington 1100 American Classic, and it came with a few flush chokes. I knew I'd wind up getting some extended ones, but when I first got the gun I shot it with the factory supplied tubes. The IC measured .007, but let me tell you that choke crushed targets out to 40 yards much to my amazement.

The shotgun manufacturers chokes may not be to spec, but there sure seems to be a method to their madness.

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 Post subject: Re: Every new browning I have bought over the last 15 years
PostPosted: Mon May 21, 2018 9:36 pm 
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The newer DS chokes got some press about strange constrictions when they first came out. I don’t remember much of what was said but remember reading about it. I don’t care much for any of the factory chokes that come with any brand gun these days. Especially the flush fit variety. I very much prefer aftermarket and have always gotten better patterns with aftermarket tubes. However, If your intention was to use the factory chokes, I’d pay more attention to how they do on paper vs what they measure. I’ve always matched the pattern to the task, not what was printed on the choke. Find the ones that kill the best or gives you the best breaks and go from there.

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 Post subject: Re: Every new browning I have bought over the last 15 years
PostPosted: Tue May 22, 2018 5:36 pm 
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What in heck has Browning made in the last 15 years that is better than what is available from earlier used gun stocks?


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 Post subject: Re: Every new browning I have bought over the last 15 years
PostPosted: Tue May 22, 2018 5:39 pm 
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 Post subject: Re: Every new browning I have bought over the last 15 years
PostPosted: Tue May 22, 2018 6:25 pm 
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725s are pretty solid contenders but a few have issues with stocks cracking. Or some minor ejector trouble from time to time. I like the 725 but still prefer the original citori variants. Especially at their price point. Not to mention invector plus chokes work quite well. But I understand company’s have to change stuff and call it better. That’s just not always the case.



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