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 Post subject: Info needed on Turkish Semi-Auto Shotgun
PostPosted: Fri May 18, 2018 10:48 am 
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Hello, long time away from SGW, glad to be back.

I have for a long time now wondered why there seems to be little or no information online about the many cheap Turkish semi-auto shotguns that come to my country Nigeria [Both Legally and Illegally.]

I have a second one now [In addition to my Mossberg 500A] and would really like to know more about these guns before I start to put it through is paces.

My first shotgun was a Turkish Magnum EFE http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/02/11/a-nigerian-shotgun/. After a few months of shooting, the firing pin broke. Yes, I confess, I had shot a lot of experimental, improvised, heavier-than-safe loads – but it seems the firing pin material was more or less a brittle substandard casting.

I just got another Turkish Shotgun – This time, it is labelled: “EFE AV Falcon ‘Automatic’ ‘Magnum’” [Phew! Quite a mouthful – but all these names are all inscribed on the firearm!]

Nothing seems to be available anywhere about the makers, or the specifications. I have really been looking:
• Any info anywhere on these shotguns?
• How do I know if it has a choke?
• What kind of choke would they have? Improved Cylinder?
• Is it of a reasonable quality that could serve me if well-treated for some time?

I plan to shoot 00 buckshot out of it, and maybe Lyman 525 slugs – will these damage the shotgun over time? Etc. NOTHING on the web anywhere. I even bought a Turkish translation service and could not get anything, apart from mentions of “Silah” and “Huglu” and “Yildiz”– but nothing pointing to MY own specific shotgun type.

Can anyone help? Any of you guys ever come across these shotguns?
zeda3000: have any info you can help me with?

This is what it originally came as. Simple PGO.

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This is what I converted it to.

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 Post subject: Re: Info needed on Turkish Semi-Auto Shotgun
PostPosted: Sat May 19, 2018 10:56 am 
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Hi,

Welcome Back!

It can be a bit of a problem to determine just who made what since Turkish manufacturers will make nearly anything for anyone who cares to pay for it. We do have a "Love my Turkish gun" forum down below. Perhaps someone there may know more.

Here in the US, Turkish re-branded guns are gaining a foothold slowly but surely. To the point that even I own several. Your gun's receiver looks similar to my Escort S/A. But the forearm is quite different.

Neither factory loaded buckshot or slugs will damage your gun beyond normal wear and tear. Your shoulder will give out first. If you are reloading your own, please use only laboratory tested recipes to reload with. Going off on your own will lead to a damaged gun at best and your death at worst. Unlike metallic reloading, plastic shotshells give no over-pressure warnings until it's too late. And even the most seemingly innocuous change to components can cause wild changes in pressures. Be safe!!!!!

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 Post subject: Re: Info needed on Turkish Semi-Auto Shotgun
PostPosted: Sun May 20, 2018 11:06 am 
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Thanks Dalee100. I was getting worried that I was not getting any replies. Many thanks.

I have looked for the "Love my Turkish Gun" forum, and cannot seem to find any such thing. Could you be so kind as to point me directly to it? A link, perhaps?

I sorted out one of the concerns with my need to know the real bore dimenions, especially of the choke on this bore.

I cast a round ball of 0.735" diameter, and pounded it down my barrel: basically "slugged my bore".

I got a final result of 0.705" - so at least I know now that I have an Improved Modified choke on this bore.

I believe this is good enough for the kind of accuracy I am looking for.

My Lyman Slugs measure out at about 0.681 [17.3mm], and with Wad Petals: I should be up to 0.720.

I am SURE I will get good accuracy.

Thanks for the concern about safety - I assure you I am working with safe parameters and factory tested recipes.

I really wish Zeda3000 could chip in a word or two on this/ these shotguns.

Thanks


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