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PostPosted: Sun Jun 10, 2018 8:48 pm 
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I have been watching Youtube videos of various Sporting Clay Tournaments. I have noticed that a number of the younger shooters (primarily teens) have an exaggerated upper body dip as part of their follow through. Annabelle Ayres' has a really pronounced one. Can someone explain to me what that's about?

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 Post subject: Re: Follow through
PostPosted: Mon Jun 11, 2018 10:00 am 
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Around here , we call it the Beaumont flip. It happens after the shot is triggered and does nothing.

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 11, 2018 10:53 am 
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I don't do it a lot on the sporting course, but find myself doing it on a low 8 skeet field.

Maybe a product of bad set up or technique, but I never miss that target.

I get so much momentum going I drive myself right out of the gun.

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 Post subject: Re: Follow through
PostPosted: Mon Jun 11, 2018 1:06 pm 
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Post shot motions are often referred to as "florishes" and do nothing to contribute to breaking a target. They do however, use valuable time and may add momentum away from the second bird of a pair. Both of these detract from consistently engaging the second target. They also consume energy that may be needed later in the round. When asked about this activity, I have found that most shooters ascribe this to their "style" and they are very reluctant to correct it.

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 11, 2018 2:18 pm 
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And certainly know better than Ken , a cert'd instr. Meaning they ain't gettin much out of their lessons.

Good luck , Ken.

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 Post subject: Re: Follow through
PostPosted: Mon Jun 11, 2018 2:44 pm 
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Hopefully Zachary Kienbaum will come on and tell you about follow through.


He explains it better than anyone.

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 Post subject: Re: Follow through
PostPosted: Mon Jun 11, 2018 5:40 pm 
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Thanks. It just seemed to me to be a waste of time and energy and I wondered the reasoning for it and why they did it.


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PostPosted: Wed Jun 13, 2018 10:44 am 
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If your shooting sustained lead there should be no follow through. If there is you have done something wrong.


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 Post subject: Re: Follow through
PostPosted: Wed Jun 13, 2018 3:22 pm 
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One shooter I work with, whips his barrel straight downward a good 12” violently every time he pulls the trigger. He can’t seem to stop it even when he is aware and trying to keep it from happening. It’s like it’s an exaggerated flinch response. It costs him recovery time and targets all the time. I thought about running a string from his barrel, over his shoulder, and tying it to his belt loop. Then if he did it he’d give himself a wedgie every shot :D

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 Post subject: Re: Follow through
PostPosted: Wed Jun 13, 2018 3:25 pm 
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Illini Shooter wrote:
If your shooting sustained lead there should be no follow through. If there is you have done something wrong.


Please explain, if you would. As I understand it, follow through is continuing to swing the gun after the shot and is necessary even with sustained lead.


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PostPosted: Wed Jun 13, 2018 7:27 pm 
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Turpentine1 wrote:
One shooter I work with, whips his barrel straight downward a good 12” violently every time he pulls the trigger. He can’t seem to stop it even when he is aware and trying to keep it from happening. It’s like it’s an exaggerated flinch response. It costs him recovery time and targets all the time. I thought about running a string from his barrel, over his shoulder, and tying it to his belt loop. Then if he did it he’d give himself a wedgie every shot :D


Get video! LOL


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 Post subject: Re: Follow through
PostPosted: Thu Jun 14, 2018 5:08 am 
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Viking0040 wrote:
Annabelle Ayres' has a really pronounced one. Can someone explain to me what that's about?


It might be "pull-away" thing...


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I think follow through with a shot gun is the same as with a golf club.

If you don't follow through you have stopped your swing to soon. IMO

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 14, 2018 7:54 am 
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KRIEGHOFFK80 wrote:
I think follow through with a shot gun is the same as with a golf club.

If you don't follow through you have stopped your swing to soon. IMO


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PostPosted: Thu Jun 14, 2018 8:46 am 
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Turpentine1 wrote:
KRIEGHOFFK80 wrote:
I think follow through with a shot gun is the same as with a golf club.

If you don't follow through you have stopped your swing to soon. IMO


Them was my thoughts Too! {hs#


Ditto. Don't see how it can be any other way, unless you are spot shooting.


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 Post subject: Re: Follow through
PostPosted: Thu Jun 14, 2018 11:45 pm 
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FreeShot wrote:
Viking0040 wrote:
Annabelle Ayres' has a really pronounced one. Can someone explain to me what that's about?


It might be "pull-away" thing...



Yeah, I just don't get the point. They actually jerk themselves downward bending at the waist with a twist. It almost seems like a much faster version of body language that you might see some bowlers use. As others have said, it just looks like it would needlessly waste energy and if done on the first shot then increase the time you need to get on the second bird.


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It must work for her. Annabelle Ayres is one of the best shooters in the country.

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 15, 2018 2:11 pm 
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KRIEGHOFFK80 wrote:
It must work for her. Annabelle Ayres is one of the best shooters in the country.

That's very true. Which adds to the confusion. LOL


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 Post subject: Re: Follow through
PostPosted: Sun Jun 17, 2018 12:07 pm 
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Bix Beiderbecke was one of the best Horn Players in the 20s and 30s, Self taught and he used valve sequences and partial valve uses that are not taught

Sometimes convention is overrated, what matters is results I have seen some weird methods ,strategies, and target management, that were 'different' than I teach, but they work Eg Shooter who waits till a high clay drops almost to the ground before hitting it, he has even been marked lost because he waits so long But it works for him, and no he was not a duck hunter



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