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 Post subject: What shell do the pros shoot?
PostPosted: Wed Jun 13, 2018 11:10 pm 
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Which Shotgun ammo is the favorite of SC shooters who are the best? 12 gauge:

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price not a concern

where can you buy them by the flat.




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PostPosted: Wed Jun 13, 2018 11:17 pm 
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Buzzsawbenelli wrote:
Which Shotgun ammo is the favorite of SC shooters who are the best? 12 gauge:

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shot size
shot weight


price not a concern

where can you buy them by the flat.


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PostPosted: Thu Jun 14, 2018 12:27 am 
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 Post subject: Re: What shell do the pros shoot?
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Whom ever sponsors them and gives them the most free ammo.

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 Post subject: Re: What shell do the pros shoot?
PostPosted: Thu Jun 14, 2018 5:02 am 
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Buzzsawbenelli wrote:
Which Shotgun ammo is the favorite of SC shooters who are the best? 12 gauge:

Brand
Loading
shot size
shot weight


price not a concern

where can you buy them by the flat.


It's pretty varied among the pros as to brand. Gamebore, Clever,Fiocchi Bornaghi, Remington, xclaimers etc.

I know several that like a faster shell 1235-1250 1 1/8, some also shoot the 1300 -1330 1 1/8.

Several shoot 7.5 exclusively but some also shoot 8's with 7.5 for longer shots. I can't think of any that shoot 9's

There are some that shoot 1oz loads at everything.

The one ounce guys seem to like the 1290 -1350 speed.

Of course some shoot 1 1/8 for sporting and 1 oz for Fitasc.

If I were to say most would be something like 1250 1 1/8 7.5 in a premium brand hard shot. for sporting.

Fitasc would be 1290 1 oz 7.5 premium brand hard shot.

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 Post subject: Re: What shell do the pros shoot?
PostPosted: Thu Jun 14, 2018 5:29 am 
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Like Bryan said it varies..............

1 ounce to 1 1/8 1235 and up. Last tmime I shot with Bill Mc or Wendall they were both shooting AA's. Randulovich gamesbores but in the past Remingtons AAs

Mein-Aguillas
Keinbaum-Bornaghi
DeMicheal-I think Bornaghi
Cruse-Aguilla
Materese-Fiochi

Just to name a few....I am not a pro however I prefer 1 oz AA and Kent 7.5 1290

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 Post subject: Re: What shell do the pros shoot?
PostPosted: Thu Jun 14, 2018 7:02 am 
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Probably as variable as can be but favoring ammo with harder shot

Sponsor supply ammo also enters their equation and is a consideration probably for less of the pros than we think.

I have never shot with a pro so only know what I read. It’s interesting info but doesn’t influence my purchase decision for my ammo. What I find most fascinating about the pro shooters is how calm and consistent they are and efficient with minimal gun movement. They could probably break more targets then me shooting shells filled with small stones

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 Post subject: Re: What shell do the pros shoot?
PostPosted: Thu Jun 14, 2018 8:43 am 
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eyeonbird wrote:
Mein-Aguillas

Cruse-Aguilla


I can get Aquillas at a good price but have been reluctant to do so. Knowing shooters of this level use them makes me more inclined to try them.


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 Post subject: Re: What shell do the pros shoot?
PostPosted: Thu Jun 14, 2018 8:55 am 
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ShowMe wrote:
eyeonbird wrote:
Mein-Aguillas

Cruse-Aguilla


I can get Aquillas at a good price but have been reluctant to do so. Knowing shooters of this level use them makes me more inclined to try them.


I bought about three flats of them in a closeout deal at a GREAT price

Have not shot them all yet but my observations so far have been that this shell doesn’t like cold weather much but when I have shot them on warmer days they are consistent and break targets very well.

I shot them first time on a day with temps in the 20’s and had a fair percentage of shells that sounded like a partial powder burn. I have also gotten that with Rio shells in the past too so I don’t shoot them in our winter series tournaments. They work well in warm weather for me

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 Post subject: Re: What shell do the pros shoot?
PostPosted: Thu Jun 14, 2018 8:58 am 
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Not a pro by any stretch, but I have always used Rem Nitro 1300 1 1/8 or Win AA in same load. We started carrying Aquila's at our club and some of our better shooters zeroed in on their 1 1/8 1250s in #8. I gave them a whirl and they certainly perform. Same antimony I believe, and the breaks are crisp and hard -- just as hard as AA and Nitro to me -- but the 50 fps reduction feels better on the shoulder. I am not recoil sensitive, but I can say they are pleasant to shoot comparatively. Gonna try them in tournament conditions for first time this weekend at Ga State. Only negative is that the flats are glued shut so much that it's almost like they are joking.

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 Post subject: Re: What shell do the pros shoot?
PostPosted: Thu Jun 14, 2018 9:26 am 
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Pro's use tight chokes. When doing so, basically any shell will work, outside of temp issues. Using a more open choke, a better shell will probably do better....


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 Post subject: Re: What shell do the pros shoot?
PostPosted: Thu Jun 14, 2018 10:21 am 
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It's for last year, but the PSCA website shows a break down of their shooters and the equipment they use. It is all over the board and I think reflects their current sponsorship, or lack there of. All of the pros that state a preference on shot size say 7.5s, but many don't mention it. If you are really curious, it is worth a look.


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 Post subject: Re: What shell do the pros shoot?
PostPosted: Thu Jun 14, 2018 10:28 am 
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ShowMe wrote:
eyeonbird wrote:
Mein-Aguillas

Cruse-Aguilla


I can get Aquillas at a good price but have been reluctant to do so. Knowing shooters of this level use them makes me more inclined to try them.



Showme,

Not a pro but I am speaking to showme regarding the Aguila's....

I emailed Aguila- All their competition shells are loaded with 5% antimony shot. I have shot about 15 cases myself and they absolutely smash targets, but with that said, no better than other premium shells I have used.

I have tried the 1-1/8 oz 1,150's, the 1 oz 1,275, 1 oz 1,200, and the 1 oz 1,325.

The 1 oz. 1,275 load is loud- evidently uses a slow burning powder, and is dirty. This is the load Cory Kruse uses. Derrick Mein uses the 1 oz. 1,325 load but told me he is considering going to the 1,275 load.


Dpe- My son's Beretta 391 teknys also experienced "poofs" with the 1,275 1 oz loads but I have never noticed it in my Perazzi. My Perazzi is ported and these loads are VERY loud and dirty.

Regarding the packaging, yes, major PITA! They use some type of major glue on the top of the case. I have found it easier to open from the bottom of the case and just pop open the staples.

I shot Clever's the last two years and the Aguila's are comparable in my opinion. The Clever's took a price hike and the Aguila's became available at excellent prices so Aguila's it is.
Dave


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 Post subject: Re: What shell do the pros shoot?
PostPosted: Thu Jun 14, 2018 11:14 am 
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How many birds can I expect to increase my average if I change the shells I use?

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 Post subject: Re: What shell do the pros shoot?
PostPosted: Thu Jun 14, 2018 11:38 am 
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I did a clinic at the Dallas Gun Club with George Digweed a few years ago. George was doing his famous long crossing shot demo off the high tower and I was pulling for him. He turned to me and asked for a shell, without asking what it was. The next target, at about 80 yards broke. I only had 1 oz. 8's in my pocket. I don't believe the brand would have made much difference.

The Olympic skeet shooters use 24 gram's for everything and in a medal match on the reverse doubles the second target is probably 35 yards plus. Most use 8's on that target and once again I don't think the brand makes much difference. Its not the arrow, its the Indian.


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 Post subject: Re: What shell do the pros shoot?
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Jim Miller wrote:
How many birds can I expect to increase my average if I change the shells I use?


You probably fall into the same category as 90 % of us and the shell makes virtually no difference.

I am not brand loyal on shells and buy based on price or reload. My scores are much more driven by how well I slept the night before or how well I keep work or other things out of my head than anything to do with the equipment. Shutting off all those other things for a few hours is my biggest struggle.

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 Post subject: Re: What shell do the pros shoot?
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Whom ever sponsors them and gives them the most free ammo.


Exactly, and when Remington dropped a bunch a year or so ago, other companies stepped in.

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 Post subject: Re: What shell do the pros shoot?
PostPosted: Thu Jun 14, 2018 12:07 pm 
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I am influenced by what shells my gun club sells at the time closet to 1200fps, 1oz, #8 shot.

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 Post subject: Re: What shell do the pros shoot?
PostPosted: Thu Jun 14, 2018 12:18 pm 
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I'm partial to hand-loading 15/16 oz of specially made 8 1/8 shot going at 1271fps. My 8 1/8 shot has laser guided pellets that seeks out pitch targets with 97.38% accuracy. I am working on bio targets, not quite there yet. Each pellet has a sensor that detects impact with the target and has a secondary accelerator that will give it more energy at the final phase of flight. My loads are outlawed by the NSCA ... for now. I have a team of lawyers working on new rule changes that will allow my new shot to be put into manufacturers shells by the 2019 US Open. But they only work with 15/16 oz at 1271fps.



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